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CHC Thread | Starlin Castro Deserves <3 | MIL (Cravy) vs. CHC (Arrieta)
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:33 pm
Jake goes for win #20 against the Brewers and Cravy, who the Cubs kind of knocked around a good bit in his last start at Wrigley.
In Starlin's last 14 games started, he's hitting .465 (20 for 43 with 4 HR, 15 RBI and 11 R).
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:37 pm to The Sad Banana
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In Starlin's last 14 games started, he's hitting .465 (20 for 43 with 4 HR, 15 RBI and 11 R).
He sucks. The bullpen sucks. We don't have enough starting pitching. Rabble rabble rabble.
But our magic number is down to 4 and we've got the best record in the National League over the last like 50 games. Go Cubs Go.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:39 pm to FulshearTiger
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e sucks
Are we to act like early criticism wasnt warranted? Joe was just being an emotional fan when he benched him earlier in the year i guess.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:40 pm to The Sad Banana
Baez getting the start over Russell is to try to get him some more MLB playing time before the playoffs I assume?
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:45 pm to mylsuhat
I think it's just a day off for Russell.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:46 pm to fightingtiger2335
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Are we to act like early criticism wasnt warranted?
The criticism was always warranted. The "he sucks he can never turn it around just get rid of him for nothing" talk was what wasn't. Not to mention the suggestions that he didn't care if he was playing poorly and some cubs fans basically rooting against the guy.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:47 pm to fightingtiger2335
I don't believe I said anything about that. Sure, he played like shite for a while.
Doesn't mean there aren't a lot of irrational over dramatic fans that post here.
Doesn't mean there aren't a lot of irrational over dramatic fans that post here.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:51 pm to FulshearTiger
quote:here? The Cubs fans on this site were very tame compared to many comments you'd see on FB and on Bleacher Nation comments
Doesn't mean there aren't a lot of irrational over dramatic fans that post here.
That being said, a spot on the bench, a taste of reality, seeing Addison outplay him, and a step back was EXACTLY what Castro needed. He was playing with a nonchalant attitude some days and it hurt the club
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:54 pm to mylsuhat
Whatever turned his season around has done a good bit of rebuilding for his value in the offseason if the Cubs choose to move him.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:54 pm to FulshearTiger
4 games! that's all the matters. I don't care if it's Bobo the circus clown who is on fire after a shite year. 4games! GCG!
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:54 pm to mylsuhat
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That being said, a spot on the bench, a taste of reality, seeing Addison outplay him, and a step back was EXACTLY what Castro needed.
Won't get a debate on this point. He took it well and rebounded very nicely after having a HORRIBLE defensive run right after the benching. Had either a 3 or 4 error game in one of his first games back in the lineup.
I will disagree with the whole nonchalant thing. Castro is supposedly an extremely hard worker and yada yada yada. To say a guy that we watch on tv is nonchalant isn't really a fair assessment.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:55 pm to The Sad Banana
Let's go Cubs. Castro has been playing well indeed. Hope Arrieta can win #20
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:58 pm to FulshearTiger
quote:I can concede that point. I think it's the Jay Cutler / Aaron Brooks phenomenon.. their body and facial expressions don't mimic ours when they mess up
I will disagree with the whole nonchalant thing. Castro is supposedly an extremely hard worker and yada yada yada. To say a guy that we watch on tv is nonchalant isn't really a fair assessment.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:59 pm to The Sad Banana
I mean really the change is he's not diving across the plate. I don't think he cares any more now than he did then (because by all accounts he's a hard worker) but I don't know the guy so I can only speculate to that. But you're right. No matter what the cause if he's gonna get ridiculed as much as he was fans should also tip their cap and acknowledge how well he a playing now. As a Castro apologist it's nice to not be on an island defending the guy saying he clear,y has talent surely he can recapture it anymore.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:02 pm to piggidyphish
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The "he sucks he can never turn it around just get rid of him for nothing"
I dont think anyone ever said he couldn't turn it around. I mean from May to late August he was hitting what, .220? He was a career .290 hitter, so of course he could turn it around, but it was to a point where we needed to stop hoping.
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Not to mention the suggestions that he didn't care if he was playing poorly and some cubs fans basically rooting against the guy.
he didn't really care. He wasn't running balls out, and he played like he just didnt give a shite in the field. Oh, you mean his teammates and coaches talk good about him? yea, thats what they are supposed to do. Maddon gave him a vote of confidence around mid season, and still ended up having to bench him.
Being a message board, there will always be 2 sides to most arguments. When one side takes up for the player and another takes the other side, it doesn't mean you are rooting against him. But when we are continually going back and forth on the guy, it may sound like that way to you.
But he needed to be removed from the lineup, and that happened, and has paid off for both parties.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:02 pm to mylsuhat
Wait just a minute, Aaron Brooks and Jay Cutler are certified 100% Grade A top shelf prize winning pussies. It's fact.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:03 pm to mylsuhat
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I can concede that point. I think it's the Jay Cutler / Aaron Brooks phenomenon.. their body and facial expressions don't mimic ours when they mess up
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:08 pm to Lester Earl
Ok. How about when folks said he wouldn't turn it around and needed to no longer be a cub. Is that better phrasing.
Rooting against might be extreme but it was certainly a far cry from hoping a struggling player could snap out of it.
Didn't you even call for the cubs to just cut him because he was done?
Rooting against might be extreme but it was certainly a far cry from hoping a struggling player could snap out of it.
Didn't you even call for the cubs to just cut him because he was done?
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:14 pm to piggidyphish
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Didn't you even call for the cubs to just cut him because he was done?
i wouldn't doubt it I know i said they should send him down. That or trade him.
I still honestly hope his future is elsewhere. Any player can fit into a team when they are hot. Sure, you can hustle when you are playing well(which he has been doing), and jump around like the game matters when you are playing well, but we need to see that for 162, whether he is playing good or bad. It shouldnt change.
But the season is a 6 month grind. We have better players, and he just doesn't really fit in over the long haul. Lack of consistency & effort are his major downfalls.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:18 pm to Lester Earl
I wont pull against a guy, but if/when he is playing bad, I will call it out. Doesn't mean im rooting against him. I get that people have favorite players, and there is nothing wrong with that.
But just because we "argued" when he was down and you took up for him doesn't mean I root against him. It just means that I was arguing that he wasn't playing well. It shouldnt get mixed up.
But just because we "argued" when he was down and you took up for him doesn't mean I root against him. It just means that I was arguing that he wasn't playing well. It shouldnt get mixed up.
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