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re: Charles Barkley on gay players
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:10 pm to bwallcubfan
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:10 pm to bwallcubfan
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just curious as to why they haven't come out now.
People typically have way many more and varied reasons to not come out than to come out. The pressure of such a move is something you nor I will never understand.
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:10 pm to LSUSilverfox
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Meaning they should go ahead and jump on the "gay b-ball" bandwagon? Maybe these guys don't care for the attention, IDK.
being former NBA players, I would think someone would have gotten the scoop on them...who knows? I don't really care.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:11 pm to lsu2006
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The pressure of such a move is something you nor I will never understand.
fair enough
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:12 pm to WDE24
quote:Like I said, I've never heard and would honestly like to hear a viable explanation for some of the ridiculous stuff(like the stuff I mentioned above) in these scriptures.
Well, we can hold God to the standard we want him to be and make him completely understandable to ourselves or we can accept that the creator is who he has revealed himself to be through scripture
Surely, you can understand how that can be somewhat confusing and off-putting if it's never been explained.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:13 pm to rutiger
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I have no respect for anybody who states this.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:13 pm to St Augustine
quote:I know it's been discussed before and you're right in what you said, but if he does not get signed, I don't see how he's any different than Amaechi.
His name is now forever etched in sports history in what has been an overwhelmingly positive story. He has been lauded by the President, the biggest names in his sport, and every major media outlet in the country. I'm happy he came out and I support gay marriage. But I don't think for a second that this wasn't somewhat calculated on his part.
The guy who plays after coming out IMO will be the true pioneer.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:15 pm to St Augustine
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But I don't think for a second that this wasn't somewhat calculated on his part.
The people who question his motives are the same people who are uncomfortable with the story. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:15 pm to shel311
quote:It certainly can. And it takes a lot of study to try to understand it as even many orthodox Christians have disagreements regarding scripture.
Surely, you can understand how that can be somewhat confusing and off-putting if it's never been explained.
I'm not denigrating you, just trying to at least provide a fair representation of Christianity as it seems very misunderstood on this issue (mostly the fault of some Christians using scripture as a scapegoat of their own bigotry).
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:16 pm to shel311
Maybe not and it might b the age we are in but this felt a lot different than amaechi.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:16 pm to shel311
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The guy who plays after coming out IMO will be the true pioneer.
This. But I think what Charles was alluding to was he played with guys who had come out to their teammates just not publicly. So yes, this person will be a pioneer from the media standpoint.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:18 pm to lsu2006
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Who are these players and why have they still not come out?
Maybe they dont want their personal lives to be everyone elses coffee shop discussions
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:20 pm to shel311
quote:Read a story about a guy that was out in MLB back in the 70's or early 80's I believe, but the press didn't know what to do with it so they just ignored it.
The guy who plays after coming out IMO will be the true pioneer.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:20 pm to sgallo3
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Maybe they dont want their personal lives to be everyone elses coffee shop discussions
We've established I don't know much about the coming out process. Just thought something would have come out about them by now with the way the world works.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:22 pm to WDE24
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Read a story about a guy that was out in MLB back in the 70's or early 80's I believe, but the press didn't know what to do with it so they just ignored it.
I saw that too, that's pretty fascinating.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:22 pm to St Augustine
Don't seem to like the fact that a player came out.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:28 pm to mattz1122
I don't know I think some people (myself included) are just cynical bt nature. Like I said I'm glad he did it (regardless if his motives were completely pure)
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:37 pm to bwallcubfan
quote:Chris Bosh
Who are these players
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:52 pm to tgr4ever
Sorry if this has already been posted, but I always find it interesting when African-Americans take the "I'm black so of course I'm going to be inclusive because I've been excluded" position in regards to homosexuality. Homosexuality is an incredibly contentious issue in the African-American community, so it doesn't really connect for me.
Posted on 5/7/13 at 4:17 pm to Matisyeezy
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always find it interesting when African-Americans take the "I'm black so of course I'm going to be inclusive because I've been excluded" position in regards to homosexuality. Homosexuality is an incredibly contentious issue in the African-American community, so it doesn't really connect for me.
This x1000
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