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re: Chargers moving to LA

Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:36 am to
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:36 am to
Spanos is willing to pay over 1Billion to relocate but left because SD wouldn't finance a stadium? He could have paid for the damn stadium himself and just stayed put. The city would have loved him for it.

Dumb decision is dumb.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
11017 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:43 am to
This isn't a big deal. Charger fans in SD and Southern California will be able to watch Charger games on tv and via radio I'm sure as they will have an affiliate in SD.

Plus the drive from SD to LA on a Sunday is not that bad and about 90 miles or so. It is not any different than people driving from Milwaukee to Green Bay for Packer games.

This is being way overblown as a blow to San Diego.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66593 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:49 am to
I heard some guy from ESPN in San Diego on the radio with Linda Cohn yesterday. He said Spanos legitimately didn't want to leave, but will make out like a bandit as the only costs he will have are $550 mill on the relocation fee (which will likely get financed over a decade) and building a training facility. Not having to build a stadium is a huge deal.
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
8265 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:18 am to
I'd think he could have built a Damn good stadium in San Diego for not much over $550 million. These $1Billion stadiums are nice, but they are not 'necessary'.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:20 am to
quote:

I'd think he could have built a Damn good stadium in San Diego for not much over $550 million.
What are you basing that on?
Posted by wizziko
New Jersey Nets Fan
Member since Jan 2006
35881 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:24 am to
quote:

I'd think he could have built a Damn good stadium in San Diego for not much over $550 million. These $1Billion stadiums are nice, but they are not 'necessary'.

Not with the ridiculous real estate prices in California. Look at Levi's Stadium. It cost over 1 Billion and it's pretty bare bones
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
8265 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:07 am to
Who plays in Levi's Stadium?

What a terrible name.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93338 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:08 am to
quote:

think he could have built a Damn good stadium in San Diego for not much over $550 million.


An architect who came on the local radio said he could have renovated the Q and made it state of the art for 500mil. Guess he had done it with huge Soccer Stadiums in europe

The proposal was a convadium which would have been really good for the city to keep comic con and get in the rotation for all major events. It would cost at least a billion
Posted by 805tiger
Member since Oct 2011
4550 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:08 am to
49ers
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
63994 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:10 am to
Now if they could go back to the powder blue unis
Posted by Easy
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2008
5687 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:13 am to
quote:

They averaged around 83,000 per game. The Coliseum holds 93,000. The LA metro area has a population of around 13,000,000. There's no excuse for a new team with all of the hype around them to average 10,000 empty seats per game. Bringing in another franchise basically guarantees more empty seats.


I know that 93,000 figure is published almost everywhere, but that's actually the seating capacity for USC home games. The Rams decided not to use several sections near the peristyle that have horrible views making the capacity closer to 88,000. If you look at the charts below they don't use half of sections 1 and 28 and use none of sections 29 and 33.

That being said I went to two games and I'd guess the stadium was maybe 80% full so there were thousands of empty seats no matter how you figure it. But it rained one game and was supposed to rain the other but didn't. We don't do stuff in the rain out here so 80% is very impressive for LA.

Rams seating (approx 88,000)


USC seating (93,000)
Posted by Easy
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2008
5687 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:24 am to
quote:

LA has already had 2 chances with the NFL (at least) and failed


You guys have a weird way of looking at things. LA has a ton of people. If a team can't get attendance it's not the city that failed, it's the team. This is a very large city and we have many activities competing for our money. The fact that we don't give billionaire owners our money for a crap product makes us smart. And that's a collective we since I obviously gave them money for two crappy games.

Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:26 am to
quote:

You guys have a weird way of looking at things.
No doubt.

I'm still waiting for a rational response from those folks re the downside of moving to LA.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39893 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:44 am to
quote:

lus the drive from SD to LA on a Sunday is not that bad and about 90 miles or so. It is not any different than people driving from Milwaukee to Green Bay for Packer games.

This is being way overblown as a blow to San Diego.


I was young when the oilers left but I remember it. People still hold grudges over it. It effectively made everyone I grew up with college fans, mostly UT.

Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

Plus the drive from SD to LA on a Sunday is not that bad and about 90 miles or so. It is not any different than people driving from Milwaukee to Green Bay for Packer games.


I guess people in Cali don't like to drive long distances. For Chiefs games, fans drive from Oklahoma, Arkansas, Nebraska, and Iowa. Most trips over 3+hrs.
Posted by saturday
Pronoun (Baw)
Member since Feb 2007
7784 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Plus the drive from SD to LA on a Sunday is not that bad and about 90 miles or so. It is not any different than people driving from Milwaukee to Green Bay for Packer games.



It takes a tad bit longer to drive 90 miles in southern California compared to other areas of the country
Posted by PSG
Member since Jan 2017
57 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:08 pm to
why must they screw the fans
Posted by Easy
Los Angeles
Member since Dec 2008
5687 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:26 pm to
Because those people live in bumfrick with nothing else to do. This would be like the eagles going to NYC. It's not just the drive but the team is leaving for another city.
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
18220 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 1:28 am to
Spanos will get bent over by Kroenke when he starts paying rent in the new stadium.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 1:41 am to
You guys don't understand the LA dynamic at all. LA is LA, but there are several different areas included in the "LA Metro" that equals in upwards of 11 Million people.

This is why these franchises are worth so much.

San Diego is geographically in the same area, but is a different culture and it's own city. With 3,000,000 people in the county, we refuse to be in the subset of SoCal, it is San Diego. Distinct and different from LA.

It's a community, LA is an area. This hurts because as huge as this town seems. It's very small timey, and we loved what the Chargers represented.

No they've just become a conglomerate of the Los Angeles Metro Area.

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