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re: Chandler for Okafor?
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:42 pm to ColtsTigers
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:42 pm to ColtsTigers
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I've skipped through most of this thread, but why are so many concerned about the money from the Hornets' standpoint? That's George Shinn's concern, not ours. The problem with Chandler wasn't his contract, it was the fact that he has an injury situation that may be chronic. If the guy misses a lot of games again, the Hornets are fricked. If he even loses an ounce of athleticism due to injuries, he's basically done as a legit player and the Hornets are screwed.
jesus, some people are so narrow minded
the money is an issue as to who gets on the floor. money in the nba is so much more important than in ANY other sport
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Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:43 pm to Ron Mexico
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seriously, provide decent points or stfu
Decent point: David West isnt getting traded. You and about 5 other people on the planet are the only ones who believe this.
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:43 pm to emmanuellewis
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Because it affects what the Hornets can do for the next 5 years instead of 2.
You're acting like Okafor is a bad contract. He's in his prime and he's fairly compensated as far as $$$. It's not like we took on some behemoth of a deal like Peja's where he's grossly overpaid.
And Ron, I don't see what you mean regarding the trade being good, but only if we don't blow the shite up. I don't see how we could blow it up now? We have a top 3 PG, a top 10 PF, and a top 12 C. None of them have bad contracts.
If any players are moved at this point it will be secondary guys like JuJu, Sual, Daniels, Posey even. Nobody key is on the block - and like you said - if West WAS somehow on the block we'd definitely get quality in return.
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:44 pm to Ron Mexico
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wow, so apparently the only team we can trade with is the bulls.
well if we are talking about getting tyrus thomas, im assuming we are going to have to deal with the bulls in some manner. unless you think we can just switch them in the middle of the night and no one is going to notice
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:44 pm to eyeran
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Decent point: David West isnt getting traded. You and about 5 other people on the planet are the only ones who believe this.
decent point: if the opportunity comes for the hornets to unload a bad contract in the form of say james posey, then YES, he can be traded
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:45 pm to emmanuellewis
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Because it affects what the Hornets can do for the next 5 years instead of 2.
Peja and Mo Pete's contracts will be off the books in two years.
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:46 pm to Ron Mexico
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jesus, some people are so narrow minded
the money is an issue as to who gets on the floor. money in the nba is so much more important than in ANY other sport
WTF does that mean? You really think the Hornets are going to trade West or something?
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:47 pm to Ron Mexico
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jesus, some people are so narrow minded
the money is an issue as to who gets on the floor. money in the nba is so much more important than in ANY other sport
Check your avatar
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decent point: if the opportunity comes for the hornets to unload a bad contract in the form of say james posey, then YES, he can be traded
Id love to get rid of Posey. But im not trading an all star(whether the board agrees or not) to do it.
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:47 pm to Ron Mexico
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decent point: if the opportunity comes for the hornets to unload a bad contract in the form of say james posey, then YES, he can be traded
That's what you're worried about? Posey never should have been signed in the first place, so good riddance if he is traded. Who gives a frick.
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:47 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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You're acting like Okafor is a bad contract. He's in his prime and he's fairly compensated as far as $$$. It's not like we took on some behemoth of a deal like Peja's where he's grossly overpaid.
He is a bad contract. Certainly not a Peja contract, but 5 years, 62 million is a lot of money to pay for a non-All Star. Its not terrible, much better than several others the Hornets have (Peja, Posey, Peterson), but it is bad.
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:49 pm to eyeran
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But im not trading an all star(whether the board agrees or not) to do it.
you wouldnt trade West and Posey for say, Tyrus Thomas and a good back up guard?
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:49 pm to ColtsTigers
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Peja and Mo Pete's contracts will be off the books in two years
Yes, but Okafor will be on them for 5 meaning that it will affect them for longer than the 2 years left on Chandlers deal.
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:49 pm to emmanuellewis
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He is a bad contract. Certainly not a Peja contract, but 5 years, 62 million is a lot of money to pay for a non-All Star. Its not terrible, much better than several others the Hornets have (Peja, Posey, Peterson), but it is bad.
CP3 could make him an all star though. I dont think West would be an all star on many other teams
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:50 pm to emmanuellewis
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He is a bad contract. Certainly not a Peja contract, but 5 years, 62 million is a lot of money to pay for a non-All Star. Its not terrible, much better than several others the Hornets have (Peja, Posey, Peterson), but it is bad.
not at the position he plays...
Whose better production wise than him ?
Shaq, Yao, Howard ?
Not including PF's who play C (Timmy, Amare)
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:50 pm to kfizzle85
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Right, because when your owner says stuff like "we have no business being over the luxury tax," that screams "we're making basketball moves."
Actually, the FO has always said it would pay luxury tax if it made enough basketball sense. I'm not going to Google for you, but the quotes are there. But I also think the FO did a little bit of "poor mouthing" here and there for tactical reasons. I think some of the posters here were making assumptions like some of the national media. The Hornets are actually in pretty decent financial shape, all things considered.
There is no way West will be moved (his contract is favorable) unless there is real value in return, and I just can't think of a realistic possibility.
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:50 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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You're acting like Okafor is a bad contract. He's in his prime and he's fairly compensated as far as $$$. It's not like we took on some behemoth of a deal like Peja's where he's grossly overpaid.
dude, okafor will make fourteen million dollars a year by the time his contract is up
paul will make 17 that year i think
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If any players are moved at this point it will be secondary guys like JuJu, Sual, Daniels, Posey even. Nobody key is on the block - and like you said - if West WAS somehow on the block we'd definitely get quality in return.
thats all im saying man. everyone acts like we will trade west and then we will just play with four players
if we move west it will be a blockbuster. we will get a guy that is BETTER than west in return, and we will dump salary
im sorry, but trading west could help this team out if we can get the right player in return. people need to realize that and stop protecting their favorite players bc they played here
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:51 pm to emmanuellewis
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He is a bad contract. Certainly not a Peja contract, but 5 years, 62 million is a lot of money to pay for a non-All Star. Its not terrible, much better than several others the Hornets have (Peja, Posey, Peterson), but it is bad.
Crap a third of the NBA consists of shitty contracts. What's new?
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:52 pm to eyeran
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Id love to get rid of Posey. But im not trading an all star(whether the board agrees or not) to do it.
good thing you arent the gm then
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:53 pm to ColtsTigers
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That's what you're worried about? Posey never should have been signed in the first place, so good riddance if he is traded. Who gives a frick.
ugh. jesus christ, it was just an example
and good riddance if he is traded? NOBODY WILL TRADE FOR HIM BC BOWER SIGNED HIM TO A SHITTY DEAL
the only way to rid yourself of shitty contracts like that is to give up something else
Posted on 7/27/09 at 8:53 pm to Elleshoe
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you wouldnt trade West and Posey for say, Tyrus Thomas and a good back up guard?
I like TT, but West is 20 and 9 guy. TT is never gonna be a 20 point scorer. We'd have no legit scorer outside of Paul if we traded West for TT.
Also there's no way TT can guard legit PFs at 215lbs. He's a good defender but he's an off the ball guy.
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