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re: Bruce Bowens top 5 pgs...just showed on SC

Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:16 pm to
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CP should have won the MVP two years ago.


Wow...coulda. woulda. shoulda. If my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle.

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CP averages double digit assists a game passing the ball to Mo Pete and Emeka. Man it'd be real nice for him to pass the ball to Ray Allen, KG, and Paul Pierce.


Yes. it would. And then we could not rank him as high because he would have "too much" talent to work with.

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but CP's embarassing postseason of 16/11 just about mirrors that.


CP has had one great postseason, and that went into the 2nd round. Sorry...not enough to say what is "embarassing" and what is the "norm" for Paul.

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Rondo and Rose? Absolutely not.


Gee...yeah. You are right.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:17 pm to
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but CP's embarassing postseason of 16/11 just about mirrors that.
you must be talkin about against Denver, who knew that by attackin him and roughin him up would easily take out the Hornets, George Karl called that I'm sure, he knew everything the Hornets did revolved around Paul.

but if you look at his series against Dallas right before they advanced to play Denver, he dominated Dallas.
This post was edited on 6/1/10 at 2:18 pm
Posted by BaileyTiger
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
243 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:17 pm to
for all of yoou jizzing over rondo. he is at best an above average point guard. He always played a small role in the starting 5 for the celtics. He distributes and gets to the rim a couple times a game. Nobody thought that the Celtics were HIS team. Then, he had 2 or 3 good games during the cavs series, and now he is jesus. Yes, he has stepped up in the playoffs, and he may turn in to a great All-star player. But he is not that yet. if you would pick right now rondo over Paul or steve nash, then u are fricking high. I put Rondo on the same level as Mo Williams and Devin Harris. There are really good, but NONE of them are Nash, Williams, or paul
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:19 pm to
Rondo is playin with 3 HOF'ers EL Tigre, what is Paul playin with?
Posted by Jamohn
Das Boot
Member since Mar 2009
13604 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:19 pm to
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But it's truth...all you Hornet fans seem to be resilient to admitting that another pg is capable of dominating a game...
Re-read my posts in this thread and get back to me on that issue. I've admitted that on a list that includes four other point guards, 2 out of those 4 are potentially equal to or better than Paul; 1 has the potential to be either. Other posters have been saying similar things. Yet you continue to throw out this same bullshite statement, hence my conclusion that you are flaming.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30096 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:20 pm to
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you must be talkin about against Denver, who knew that by attackin him and roughin him up would easily take out the Hornets, George Karl called that I'm sure, he knew everything the Hornets did revolved around Paul.


Yep...another asterisk. Any time Paul gets handled, there is some excuse, right?

Was the floor too slippery? His shorts too tight?

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but if you look at his series against Dallas right before they advanced to play Denver, he dominated Dallas.


Wrong playoffs chief. They took Dallas, and lost to SA. Then in the first round of 09', they got smashed by Denver.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:21 pm to
Scott's system was BS, I'm glad he's gone with that Princeton shite, but CP3 still made it look good, imagine CP3 in D'Antonio's system?
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:21 pm to
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Rondo is playin with 3 HOF'ers EL Tigre, what is Paul playin with?


and those 3 HOF'ers were OK with Rondo taking over against the Cavs. That doesn't tell you something?

Paul is a stud, but when you always have the ball it's easier to put up numbers. Look at Collison. His numbers as a starter are virtually identical to Paul's career numbers.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30096 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:21 pm to
I bet if the Celts sucked, it would be because they didn't have a good pg to get the ball to the HOFers. But when they do well, it's because of everybody but him.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30096 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:22 pm to
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hence my conclusion that you are flaming


I am not trying to personally attack you dude. There's others on the board...
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:22 pm to
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wrong playoffs chief?
well he still dominated Dallas, and came close to knockin off S,A., but my point still stands that George Karl knew what to do to him.
This post was edited on 6/1/10 at 2:23 pm
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:25 pm to
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Then, he had 2 or 3 good games during the cavs series, and now he is jesus.


what about last year's playoffs? he was right at a triple double for the postseason.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30096 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:26 pm to
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well he still dominated Dallas, and came close to knockin off S,A., but my point still stands that George Karl knew what to do to him.


Once again...when someone references a player and his team still playing, we catch shite for it. But if it's the Hornets, then it's all because Paul took them there. DWest was out of his mind in 08'.

and as for being close? Congrats...but that just throws him in the SAME CATEGORY as Nash and Williams. And dare I say it...does that mean Parker is a great pg b/c of his rings? BJ Armstrong and the Bulls. Etc, lol
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30096 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:27 pm to
You could penalize Rondo if he couldn't manage a game with the greats he has. But he has taken them to the Finals 2 of three years. What more do you want him to do before he is validated? paul would be doing the same in Boston...nobody is doubting that. So why diiscredit Rondo for doing exactly what he is supposed to be doing?
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:27 pm to
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but my point still stands that George Karl knew what to do to him.


so if you HAVE to win ONE game you want a guy that can't handle rough play?
Posted by TGHub
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
2262 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:28 pm to
I really find it hard to believe that people would take Rondo over Paul. Nash and Dwill i can understand that, but it's still pretty close. Rondo does nothing better than Paul as a PG. He had a great series against the Cavs, but was a non factor in quite a few games in the Magic series.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:31 pm to
I just find it funny that you 2 are downplayin Chris Paul, hell no Parker is not in the conversation, he is a great penetrator that's it, BJ Armstrong

you could have had Urkel or somebody running the Bulls team, West is overrated, and it's starting to show.

Collison will be a great PG in time because he has the intangibles, but this Rondo is better than Paul nonsense right now is strictly nonsense because he is on a much better team.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30096 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:31 pm to
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Rondo does nothing better than Paul as a PG


Apparently he distributes to Hall of Famers better.











sarcasm...
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:33 pm to
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Rondo does nothing better than Paul as a PG


Rondo is better at:
Man up defense
penetrating
rebounding, esp against physical teams.

Paul is a better shooter in all aspects.

their distribution right now is a wash, imo.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30096 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 2:34 pm to
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I just find it funny that you 2 are downplayin Chris Paul, hell no Parker is not in the conversation, he is a great penetrator that's it, BJ Armstrong

you could have had Urkel or somebody running the Bulls team, West is overrated, and it's starting to show.

Collison will be a great PG in time because he has the intangibles, but this Rondo is better than Paul nonsense right now is strictly nonsense because he is on a much better team.


I'm not saying he is better. But people say it's not fair because of the talent Rondo has? Is that his fault? Does he have to play on a shite team to get a fair comparison? Maybe, just maybe, Rondo is kicking arse in Rivers' system. Just sayin...Rondo has done nothing to warrant negative criticism. All he does is help run the well-oiled machine that is the Boston Celtics.

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West is overrated, and it's starting to show.


funny though, how when West began to go bad...so did the Hornets.
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