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Posted on 2/13/09 at 3:43 pm to PiscesTiger
Ok, I decided to punish Louisville and moved them to a 3 (and in the same bracket with Memphis...committee would love that) and put Nova - hottest team in the country - at a 2.
Posted on 2/13/09 at 6:20 pm to Baloo
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Baloo
It's time for you to make yours so I can argue with you about putting Vermont as a 9 seed!
Remember that? That was back in '05 or so...
Posted on 2/13/09 at 6:32 pm to PiscesTiger
Can't wait for another Memphis-Ville matchup. BTW- who do you think would get in if it came down to Miami or Tennessee?
Posted on 2/13/09 at 6:37 pm to Esarhaddon
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Can't wait for another Memphis-Ville matchup
As I said, the committe will bring em together if the seeds match. I think it'd make one helluva game.
quote:
who do you think would get in if it came down to Miami or Tennessee?
Tough one. Both have impressive wins and both have underachievd in league play. Both are doing just enough to stay afloat. Right now, though, I'd have to give the nod to UT.
Posted on 2/13/09 at 6:39 pm to PiscesTiger
LSU's bracket is about as tough as it gets. I'd be amazed if the Tigers get out of that alive:
1) tricky, tricky game with a very slippery Creighton squad. They're legit, every year it seems.
2) UCLA. Man...the Bruins are as "bad" as they've been under Howland, but can still play on the big stage. It would be a nice revenge game.
3) Florida State/Oklahoma...I wouldn't want to play the Noles when they're on...OU is ten times that. I'd rather play any of the one seeds instead of them - even U Conn.
1) tricky, tricky game with a very slippery Creighton squad. They're legit, every year it seems.
2) UCLA. Man...the Bruins are as "bad" as they've been under Howland, but can still play on the big stage. It would be a nice revenge game.
3) Florida State/Oklahoma...I wouldn't want to play the Noles when they're on...OU is ten times that. I'd rather play any of the one seeds instead of them - even U Conn.
Posted on 2/13/09 at 6:51 pm to PiscesTiger
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5 VA Tech vs 12 George Mason
Battle of the 'I wish I got into UVa's"
Posted on 2/13/09 at 8:36 pm to PiscesTiger
Just when I bump Nova to a 2, they get it taken to them by WVU...at least early on.
WVU wins this and they are 85 percent certain to dance.
WVU wins this and they are 85 percent certain to dance.
Posted on 2/13/09 at 8:42 pm to PiscesTiger
quote:
Long Gone/Forget about it:
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Notre Dame
I think ND put themselves back squarely on the bubble after last night.
Posted on 2/13/09 at 8:43 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
It was a big step, but they are still 3 games below .500 in league play and must do more than get one big win. NC State would have just as much gripe as ND and we all knw they're not going anywhere.
Posted on 2/13/09 at 9:50 pm to PiscesTiger
Trying to do this from my crackberry for the first time. Fortunately, not too much to talk about. Butler stayed on track and WVU got back into a more solid spot if they can hold on against Nova. Big East projection right now: uconn, marquette, pitt, syracuse, villanova, cincinnati, wvu.
Bubble: Georgetown, providence, notre dame (in that order)
Bubble: Georgetown, providence, notre dame (in that order)
This post was edited on 2/13/09 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 2/13/09 at 10:07 pm to BraveTiger225
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WVU got back into a more solid spot if they can hold on against Nova. Big East projection right now: uconn, marquette, pitt, syracuse, villanova, cincinnati, wvu.
Bubble: Georgetown, providence, notre dame (in that order)
Yep, WVU needed this win and they don't have to do a whol lot more except fight for seed. They have the 6th most difficult schedule in the country and their losses are to great teams. They were the only Big Esast team that had to play Pitt/Louisville twice. They cooled off the hottest team in the country tonight. Any loss WVU has is to a top 25 team and Kentucky.
There's just no way that anyone can have WVU out right now.
LOCK:
U Conn
L'ville
Marquette
Nova
Pitt
CLOSE TO A LOCK:
Syracuse
BUBBLE, BUT LIKELY:
West Virginia
Cincinnati
OTHERSIDE OF THE BUBBLE:
Georgetown
Providence
MIRACLE NEEDED:
Notre Dame
Seton Hall
Posted on 2/13/09 at 11:42 pm to PiscesTiger
My top 25 (based on me only):
1. U Conn
2. Oklahoma
3. North Carolina
4. Memphis
5. Louisville
6. Pitt
7. Clemson
8. Michigan State
9. Duke
10. Villanova
11. Wake Forest
12. Marquette
13. Butler
14. Arizona State
15. Mizzou
16. UCLA
17. Purdue
18. Kansas
19. Xavier
20. LSU
21. Texas
22. Cincinnati
23. West Virginia
24. Ohio State
25. Gonzaga
1. U Conn
2. Oklahoma
3. North Carolina
4. Memphis
5. Louisville
6. Pitt
7. Clemson
8. Michigan State
9. Duke
10. Villanova
11. Wake Forest
12. Marquette
13. Butler
14. Arizona State
15. Mizzou
16. UCLA
17. Purdue
18. Kansas
19. Xavier
20. LSU
21. Texas
22. Cincinnati
23. West Virginia
24. Ohio State
25. Gonzaga
Posted on 2/14/09 at 2:12 pm to PiscesTiger
Analysis from Saturday (2:12 pm)
Georgetown with a nice comeback in the Carrier Dome, but in the end you have to win the game. G'Town very much out of it right now at 4-8. Syracuse was desperate for a win, so this was big for the Orange.
The race for the auto bid in the CAA got blown wide open by George Mason's win over Northeastern. If VCU can take care of Old Dominion, there will be a logjam at the top. All are bubble teams in an at-large sense, but could make for some interesting action into March.
No more doubt for Arizona. The Wildcats are in, probably in the 10-seed range. A great week with a win over another bubble team (USC) and the pre-season Pac-10 favorite (UCLA). It's also possible that they could still win the Pac-10. After this game, Washington (9-3) is only 1.5 games ahead of Arizona (8-5) in fifth place.
UCLA, meanwhile, drops near the bottom of the pecking order in 3-seed land, and maybe even as far down as a 4. Not a good week for the Bruins at all.
Georgetown with a nice comeback in the Carrier Dome, but in the end you have to win the game. G'Town very much out of it right now at 4-8. Syracuse was desperate for a win, so this was big for the Orange.
The race for the auto bid in the CAA got blown wide open by George Mason's win over Northeastern. If VCU can take care of Old Dominion, there will be a logjam at the top. All are bubble teams in an at-large sense, but could make for some interesting action into March.
No more doubt for Arizona. The Wildcats are in, probably in the 10-seed range. A great week with a win over another bubble team (USC) and the pre-season Pac-10 favorite (UCLA). It's also possible that they could still win the Pac-10. After this game, Washington (9-3) is only 1.5 games ahead of Arizona (8-5) in fifth place.
UCLA, meanwhile, drops near the bottom of the pecking order in 3-seed land, and maybe even as far down as a 4. Not a good week for the Bruins at all.
Posted on 2/14/09 at 2:28 pm to PiscesTiger
not a bad top 25, i think kansas is better than purdue and mizzou though. however, bc of that road loss, it's easy to have mizzou over ku. frick that game 
Posted on 2/14/09 at 3:27 pm to PiscesTiger
More from Saturday:
Penn State with one they badly needed at home against Minnesota. These two teams will play again, and the second matchup could be bigger for both teams. Penn State is still likely right on the edge of in/out, but we'll know more about that by the end of the day, and weekend.
Nebraska...yuck. In a big game for them, they took one on the chin at Mizzou. By the end of the day they'll probably be somewhere in my last five out, maybe farther down. Fortunately for the Huskers, they have a manageable schedule remaining with the toughest game at Kansas next Saturday. They could, theoretically be in the 10-6 range by Big 12 tourney time. Then, they'd at least get serious consideration on the bubble.
Back to USC, they are hurt right now. I could have them as one of the first teams out by the end of the day. A loss tomorrow at Arizona State would be painful. A win, however...
Texas tried every way they could to lose to Colorado, but fortunately for them the Buffs are just bad enough not to take advantage. The Horns are very much in, but their stock is pretty weak at the moment.
Penn State with one they badly needed at home against Minnesota. These two teams will play again, and the second matchup could be bigger for both teams. Penn State is still likely right on the edge of in/out, but we'll know more about that by the end of the day, and weekend.
Nebraska...yuck. In a big game for them, they took one on the chin at Mizzou. By the end of the day they'll probably be somewhere in my last five out, maybe farther down. Fortunately for the Huskers, they have a manageable schedule remaining with the toughest game at Kansas next Saturday. They could, theoretically be in the 10-6 range by Big 12 tourney time. Then, they'd at least get serious consideration on the bubble.
Back to USC, they are hurt right now. I could have them as one of the first teams out by the end of the day. A loss tomorrow at Arizona State would be painful. A win, however...
Texas tried every way they could to lose to Colorado, but fortunately for them the Buffs are just bad enough not to take advantage. The Horns are very much in, but their stock is pretty weak at the moment.
Posted on 2/14/09 at 8:11 pm to BraveTiger225
This is my projected field as RIGHT NOW (10:04 pm). Projected automatic bids are in parentheses.
NOTE: Utah State/Davidson are in the field as an automatic bid and does not factor into Last Five In/First Five Out
America East (1): (Vermont)
Atlantic 10 (2): (Xavier), Dayton
ACC (8): (North Carolina), Duke, Clemson, Wake Forest, Florida State, Virginia Tech, Miami, Boston College
Atlantic Sun (1): (Jacksonville)
Big 12 (5): (Oklahoma), Kansas, Missouri, Texas, Kansas State
Big East (8): (Connecticut), Pittsburgh, Louisville, Marquette, Villanova, Syracuse, West Virginia, Providence
Big Sky (1): (Weber State)
Big South (1): (Radford)
Big Ten (6): (Michigan State), Illinois, Ohio State, Purdue, Wisconsin, Minnesota
Big West (1): (Long Beach State)
CAA (1): (George Mason)
Conference USA (1): (Memphis)
Horizon (1): (Butler)
Ivy (1): (Princeton)
MAAC (1): (Siena)
MAC (1): (Buffalo)
MEAC (1): (Morgan State)
Missouri Valley (1): (Northern Iowa)
Mountain West (3): (Utah), San Diego State, BYU
NEC (1): (Robert Morris)
OVC (1): (Morehead State)
Pac-10 (5): (UCLA), Washington, Arizona State, California, Arizona
Patriot (1): (American)
SEC (5): (LSU), Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee
Southern (1): (Davidson)
Southland (1): (Sam Houston State)
Summit (1): (North Dakota State)
Sun Belt (1): (Western Kentucky)
SWAC (1): (Alabama State)
West Coast (1): (Gonzaga)
WAC (1): (Utah State)
Last Five In:
San Diego State
Kansas State
Boston College
Providence
BYU
First Five Out:
Penn State
USC
New Mexico
Cincinnati
UNLV
Next Five Out:
Michigan
St. Mary's
Notre Dame
Georgetown
UAB
Potential Bid-Hawks
Conference USA: Tulsa, UAB
Horizon: Green Bay
MAAC: Niagara (if Siena is worthy of an at-large)
Southern: Citadel, Charleston
WAC: Boise State, Nevada
West Coast: St. Mary's, Portland
NOTE: Utah State/Davidson are in the field as an automatic bid and does not factor into Last Five In/First Five Out
America East (1): (Vermont)
Atlantic 10 (2): (Xavier), Dayton
ACC (8): (North Carolina), Duke, Clemson, Wake Forest, Florida State, Virginia Tech, Miami, Boston College
Atlantic Sun (1): (Jacksonville)
Big 12 (5): (Oklahoma), Kansas, Missouri, Texas, Kansas State
Big East (8): (Connecticut), Pittsburgh, Louisville, Marquette, Villanova, Syracuse, West Virginia, Providence
Big Sky (1): (Weber State)
Big South (1): (Radford)
Big Ten (6): (Michigan State), Illinois, Ohio State, Purdue, Wisconsin, Minnesota
Big West (1): (Long Beach State)
CAA (1): (George Mason)
Conference USA (1): (Memphis)
Horizon (1): (Butler)
Ivy (1): (Princeton)
MAAC (1): (Siena)
MAC (1): (Buffalo)
MEAC (1): (Morgan State)
Missouri Valley (1): (Northern Iowa)
Mountain West (3): (Utah), San Diego State, BYU
NEC (1): (Robert Morris)
OVC (1): (Morehead State)
Pac-10 (5): (UCLA), Washington, Arizona State, California, Arizona
Patriot (1): (American)
SEC (5): (LSU), Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee
Southern (1): (Davidson)
Southland (1): (Sam Houston State)
Summit (1): (North Dakota State)
Sun Belt (1): (Western Kentucky)
SWAC (1): (Alabama State)
West Coast (1): (Gonzaga)
WAC (1): (Utah State)
Last Five In:
San Diego State
Kansas State
Boston College
Providence
BYU
First Five Out:
Penn State
USC
New Mexico
Cincinnati
UNLV
Next Five Out:
Michigan
St. Mary's
Notre Dame
Georgetown
UAB
Potential Bid-Hawks
Conference USA: Tulsa, UAB
Horizon: Green Bay
MAAC: Niagara (if Siena is worthy of an at-large)
Southern: Citadel, Charleston
WAC: Boise State, Nevada
West Coast: St. Mary's, Portland
This post was edited on 2/14/09 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 2/14/09 at 10:29 pm to PiscesTiger
Notes from Saturday
Georgetown - Close, but no cigar. They are reeling in a bad way and have a long way to go if they are to get into the dance. They will have to go on a run at MSG.
Projected seed: OUT
Arizona - No team's stock rose higher this week than that of the Arizona Wildcats. Before the week, they were barely in or barely out depending on who you ask. Now they are solidly in after wins over another bubble team (USC) and the preseason favorite (UCLA).
Projected seed: 10
UCLA - On the opposite hand, UCLA got dragged down in a bad way this week. A 3/4 candidate before the week, now they continue to drop.
Projected seed: 5
Nebraska - Looked promising earlier in the week, but they got trashed in Columbia. Coach Sadler's guys left everything they had in the midweek.
Projected seed: OUT
Penn State - Big time win for PSU over Minnesota. They are inching closer to the field of 65, and Wednesday's tussle at Illinois could be the defining factor as they begin a tough week (also at Ohio State). Right now, just barely on the outside.
Projected seed: First Five OUT
Kansas State - Have lost 25 of 26 at home to KU after Saturday's loss. This could have all but locked K-State in the dance, but now it looks tricky for them. They have a very favorable schedule remaining, so they should be okay, but one more slip up (that isn't to Missouri) could spell doom.
Projected seed: 11
Mississippi State - Pisces had them on the brink, I have them not even close. They need a lot of work, but do have games against 3 of the top 4 teams in the SEC East remaining.
Projected seed: Way OUT
Providence - After Cincy's loss today, the Friars are the last team in from the Big East, but they have hell ahead of them. For now, in. But that could be different after next week (@Louisville, vs. Notre Dame).
Projected seed: 12
Virginia Tech - Starting to slip after today's loss to Maryland. They appear content to ride that win over Wake Forest for as long as they can. Unfortunately, that is going to run its course before long. They have a daunting task ahead of them in the last five (after Wednesday's rivalry game at UVA). They could be bubble-bound soon.
Projected seed: 10
LSU - Not on the bubble, but not even the More Sports Board can ignore our boys from the PMAC. Gutsy win coming back against Ole Miss to hold serve at home and go three clear in the SEC West. Will be ranked in both polls next week, could be as high as 20. LSU rising fast on the board.
Projected seed: 7
BYU - As of right now, the very last team in, ahead of Penn State and USC. Any of those three could be the last one in, but the trend is toward the Mountain West at the time. Logjam for the second and third bids in the Mtn. West.
Projected seed: 12
Utah State - Well, didn't see that one coming. The Aggies' 19-game win streak came crashing to an end at Boise State, last year's WAC champion. With Utah State's weak résumé, could this cost them a potential at-large bid (should they need it)? Maybe. They are 24-2, 12-1, but their only wins are over Utah and ... well, Utah. Only other loss is to BYU, another borderline team. A win at St. Mary's may not mean as much now in the BracketBuster next weekend, but it will be a VERY interesting thing to watch. I would guess, if the season ended now and Utah State lost in the conference title game, they would get in. Barely.
Projected seed: 13
Wisconsin - Some good work the last couple of weeks and the Badgers are solidly back in the dance. Should be able to win at Indiana on Thursday, but next Sunday's game at Michigan State looms large.
Projected seed: 10
Davidson - Another interesting one, possibly under the Patty Mills injury category. Stephen Curry went out of the Wildcats' win over Furman with a sprained ankle. Without him, they have nothing. Without him, they could still be given a bid, depending on the size of collapse, if there is one. We have to wait and see. Right now, they'd be in as an at-large, but time will tell here.
Projected seed: 9
Georgetown - Close, but no cigar. They are reeling in a bad way and have a long way to go if they are to get into the dance. They will have to go on a run at MSG.
Projected seed: OUT
Arizona - No team's stock rose higher this week than that of the Arizona Wildcats. Before the week, they were barely in or barely out depending on who you ask. Now they are solidly in after wins over another bubble team (USC) and the preseason favorite (UCLA).
Projected seed: 10
UCLA - On the opposite hand, UCLA got dragged down in a bad way this week. A 3/4 candidate before the week, now they continue to drop.
Projected seed: 5
Nebraska - Looked promising earlier in the week, but they got trashed in Columbia. Coach Sadler's guys left everything they had in the midweek.
Projected seed: OUT
Penn State - Big time win for PSU over Minnesota. They are inching closer to the field of 65, and Wednesday's tussle at Illinois could be the defining factor as they begin a tough week (also at Ohio State). Right now, just barely on the outside.
Projected seed: First Five OUT
Kansas State - Have lost 25 of 26 at home to KU after Saturday's loss. This could have all but locked K-State in the dance, but now it looks tricky for them. They have a very favorable schedule remaining, so they should be okay, but one more slip up (that isn't to Missouri) could spell doom.
Projected seed: 11
Mississippi State - Pisces had them on the brink, I have them not even close. They need a lot of work, but do have games against 3 of the top 4 teams in the SEC East remaining.
Projected seed: Way OUT
Providence - After Cincy's loss today, the Friars are the last team in from the Big East, but they have hell ahead of them. For now, in. But that could be different after next week (@Louisville, vs. Notre Dame).
Projected seed: 12
Virginia Tech - Starting to slip after today's loss to Maryland. They appear content to ride that win over Wake Forest for as long as they can. Unfortunately, that is going to run its course before long. They have a daunting task ahead of them in the last five (after Wednesday's rivalry game at UVA). They could be bubble-bound soon.
Projected seed: 10
LSU - Not on the bubble, but not even the More Sports Board can ignore our boys from the PMAC. Gutsy win coming back against Ole Miss to hold serve at home and go three clear in the SEC West. Will be ranked in both polls next week, could be as high as 20. LSU rising fast on the board.
Projected seed: 7
BYU - As of right now, the very last team in, ahead of Penn State and USC. Any of those three could be the last one in, but the trend is toward the Mountain West at the time. Logjam for the second and third bids in the Mtn. West.
Projected seed: 12
Utah State - Well, didn't see that one coming. The Aggies' 19-game win streak came crashing to an end at Boise State, last year's WAC champion. With Utah State's weak résumé, could this cost them a potential at-large bid (should they need it)? Maybe. They are 24-2, 12-1, but their only wins are over Utah and ... well, Utah. Only other loss is to BYU, another borderline team. A win at St. Mary's may not mean as much now in the BracketBuster next weekend, but it will be a VERY interesting thing to watch. I would guess, if the season ended now and Utah State lost in the conference title game, they would get in. Barely.
Projected seed: 13
Wisconsin - Some good work the last couple of weeks and the Badgers are solidly back in the dance. Should be able to win at Indiana on Thursday, but next Sunday's game at Michigan State looms large.
Projected seed: 10
Davidson - Another interesting one, possibly under the Patty Mills injury category. Stephen Curry went out of the Wildcats' win over Furman with a sprained ankle. Without him, they have nothing. Without him, they could still be given a bid, depending on the size of collapse, if there is one. We have to wait and see. Right now, they'd be in as an at-large, but time will tell here.
Projected seed: 9
Posted on 2/14/09 at 11:14 pm to BraveTiger225
Good stuff. I'm going to wait until tomorrow to rearrange and analyze. Huge day for college basketball though. A lot of new and old back into the mix. I'm loving it.
Posted on 2/15/09 at 1:52 am to PiscesTiger
Just updated...will discuss more tomorrow
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