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re: Big Ten expansion news from local ESPN sports radio
Posted on 2/11/10 at 7:09 pm to kfizzle85
Posted on 2/11/10 at 7:09 pm to kfizzle85
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Are UT fans in favor of it? Forget the money angle, I'm just talking about sports-wise.
I'm kinda "whatever" about it to be honest. We don't recruit outside of the state all that often, so that doesn't help much of anything.
I do think the idea of playing games at "the horseshoe", Beaver Stadium, and "the big house" would be a lot of fun...until the novelty wore off. But add to that having to play Wisconsin, Northwestern, Minnesota, Michigan State and well the shine isn't so bright.
I don't really care about any of our rivals other than Oklahoma and like I said that was an out of conference game before the Big XII, no reason it can't be again. Baylor, Texas Tech, Okie light, Iowa State, Missouri, Colorado, Kansas, Kansas State, Nebraska and aggy don't mean anything to me. I'd be more than happy to leave that mess behind.
The idea of being on the Big10 network is intriguing, I think there were 2 games last year that weren't televised outside of pay-per-view, maybe there'd be none if we were in the Big 10. I don't currently get the Big 10 network so I don't know what they do and don't show, but another sports channel to watch? Yes please.
But if you ask me if I think it will happen, my answer is no. At least not right now, currently the state Governor (Rick Perry) is a BIG aggy booster. The last time Texas tried to leave their conference (the SWC) the Governor (Ann Richards) was a Baylor supporter and she hung a big albatross around our neck, threatening to pull state funding if Texas left Baylor and aggy behind. It's an election year right now and hopefully we can get Perry out of office....even if he is replaced with another republican, at least Kay Bailey is a Longhorn.
So I don't really know how to answer it. I think the Big 10 is the better conference right now top to bottom, and I don't really feel like waiting around for the other teams in the Big XII to grow up. I think I'd rather they joined the Pac-10 or the SEC just so I wouldn't have to watch so many noon kickoffs.
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Posted on 2/11/10 at 7:15 pm to H-Town Tiger
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LOL that you would post such a stupid comment. Come on Ronnie you are way better than that. Texas made $65M in profit in 2008. The would move to the Big 10 to make more and you think they'd lose it on travel? Really? They'd be traveling to the Mid-West, not Mars. What's the travel expense for Marshall or UTEP in Cusa? La Tech in the WAC? Hawaii? Boston College. In football they'll like;y still play 8 conference games, 4 at home, 4 away. So they'll have 4 long trips instead of 1 or 2? Its not like there is no cost to travel to Stillwater or Lubbuck, let alone Kansas, Nebrasaka, Mizzo, Colorado. Its not gonna cost that much more to travel to Penn State or Wisconsin.
there are more sports then just football.
the minor sports, baseball, and basketball have to travel too and that cost money. every trip would be more then 1000 miles, where in the big 12 they do not travel a thousand miles for any road trip.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 7:37 pm to gthog61
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All of the hotels, food, local transportation once you are there, etc. is the same. The only difference is the airplane flight is an hour or two mor
exactly
Posted on 2/11/10 at 7:40 pm to TejasHorn
For the life of me, I do not understand the academic angle at all. Its an athletic conference, not quiz bowl. Is there anyone out there who is questioning the legitimacy of Texas' academic reputation because they play in the Big XII? What about Vandy in the SEC? Stanford or UCLA in the PAC10? Seriously, that's dumbfounding to me.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:02 pm to tigermike5
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there are more sports then just football.
the minor sports, baseball, and basketball have to travel too and that cost money. every trip would be more then 1000 miles, where in the big 12 they do not travel a thousand miles for any road trip.
Yes, I'm aware of that. Schools like Marshall and UTEP that make far less money than Texas have some long road trips. As someone else noted, the costs, once on the road will be the same (hotels, meals, etc). Its not like they have to pay x number of cents per mile. The flight costs will be more, but not so much more so that it would eat up the extra money they'd get.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
The Big X will not take a subpar school academically and that is why it keeps coming up.
Personally I would love to add Texas of course to the Big X; then you'd have a big 4 of OSU, Mich, PSU, and Texas.....it would also make 4 SEC/Big X games every bowl season haha
Personally I would love to add Texas of course to the Big X; then you'd have a big 4 of OSU, Mich, PSU, and Texas.....it would also make 4 SEC/Big X games every bowl season haha
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:15 pm to Buckeye06
Texas must have their eyes on the Rose Bowl. I don't see any other significant benefit. The only way they bring in more revenue is going Independent.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:16 pm to Dodd
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The only way they bring in more revenue is going Independent.
Texas home football games on CW FTW
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:21 pm to Dodd
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Texas must have their eyes on the Rose Bowl. I don't see any other significant benefit. The only way they bring in more revenue is going Independent.
The Big 10 and SEC make more than any other conference, way more than the Big 12. Adding Texas would be huge for them.
Read and learn.
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Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:23 pm to kfizzle85
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For the life of me, I do not understand the academic angle at all. Its an athletic conference, not quiz bowl. Is there anyone out there who is questioning the legitimacy of Texas' academic reputation because they play in the Big XII? What about Vandy in the SEC? Stanford or UCLA in the PAC10? Seriously, that's dumbfounding to me.
Pac10 is considered a very good academic conf.
As for why Texas really wants into the big 10... google Committee on Institutional Cooperation
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:26 pm to KosmoCramer
Why would a southern program even consider joining the Big Ten?
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:27 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Read and learn.
tell me how texas in the Big Ten brings in more than an $80MM revenue and $40MM profit.
not happening in Big 10 brother
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:28 pm to JoLeUGA
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Why would a southern program even consider joining the Big Ten?
Texas is not southern.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:29 pm to CoonassatTEXAS
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Committee on Institutional Cooperation
without reading about that, I'd bet Texas is trying to prop up their academic standing in the NCAA since its about the only thing they don't completely excel at.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:29 pm to CoonassatTEXAS
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Texas is not southern.
oxymoronThis post was edited on 2/11/10 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:31 pm to JoLeUGA
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Why would a southern program even consider joining the Big Ten?
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Well, the financial implications are massive. As I stated earlier, the Big Ten receives $242 million per year in TV revenue to split evenly among its 11 members, which comes out to $22 million per year for every single school. In contrast, the Big 12 receives $78 million per year in TV revenue that is split unevenly among its 12 members based on national TV appearances. That comes out to $6.5 million per year for the average Big 12 school. Even Texas, which is a beneficiary of the Big 12’s unequal revenue distribution model since it receives a large number of TV appearances, received only about $12 million in TV revenue last season
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Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:35 pm to Dodd
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without reading about that, I'd bet Texas is trying to prop up their academic standing in the NCAA since its about the only thing they don't completely excel at.
CIC = Money, as well.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:36 pm to Dodd
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tell me how texas in the Big Ten brings in more than an $80MM revenue and $40MM profit.
not happening in Big 10 brother
If you bothered to read the link I posted, Big 10 teams make $22/team in TV revenue.. By contrast Texas made about $12M and Notre Dame $9 in TV revenue. If the Big 10 Network added Texas TV revenue would likely go up. The rest of Texas revenue would at worst stay the same, unless you can explain why Texas alums would give less, they would sell less mdse and fewer people would attend home games if they joined the Big 10. The Revenue Texas makes is because they are Texas, not because of the Big 12 brosephus.
This post was edited on 2/11/10 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:41 pm to H-Town Tiger
that $12MM at Texas will jump considerably once B12 signs their new TV deal.
Posted on 2/11/10 at 8:41 pm to BuckeyeFan87
CIC = First thing someone has brought up academically that makes sense. Never heard of it before, thanks. 
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