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re: Be prepared to be very angry at roughing the qb this fall
Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:45 pm to MillerLiteTime
Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:45 pm to MillerLiteTime
quote:I mean your upper chest and neck pretty much are the same
Upper chest is not the head or neck area.
A good hard hit on the upper torso is now a flag on a Qb throwing the ball
For example this picture was used as an example of forcible contact to the neck area
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This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 2:48 pm
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Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:48 pm to MillerLiteTime
quote:Aren’t those hits considered targeting even when the player isn’t defenseless?
QB's have always been considered defenseless in the act of passing, and therefore hits to the head or neck area were considered targeting.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:49 pm to MillerLiteTime
Well I wish the idiots would have explained that in the tweet instead of posting a screenshot with no background or info and scaring the crap out of people.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:49 pm to KingofthePoint
quote:
That’s been a penalty for years. There would be no reason to update that.
Correct, I misspoke. The only change is adding "being in a passing posture" to the existing rule of no hits to head/neck while throwing or just after throwing.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:49 pm to ReauxlTide222
No. You can smoke a runner with your shoulder right into their clavicle and it’s perfectly legal as long as it’s not the crown of your helmet
You used to be able to do that for a Qb throwing the ball as well in college, not anymore
You used to be able to do that for a Qb throwing the ball as well in college, not anymore
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:50 pm to lsupride87
Gotcha
Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:51 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
Aren’t those hits considered targeting even when the player isn’t defenseless?
Only if leading with the crown of the helmet. There is a different penalty for hands to the face.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:51 pm to lsupride87
I bet you can do a form tackle though.
anyone?
can you wrap up?
anyone?
can you wrap up?
Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:52 pm to CelticDog
You can’t come close to their upper torso. What you will see in college now is some qbs getting their knees shredded Defnesive players should go as low as possible to ensure not being penalized
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:12 pm to TheTideMustRoll
quote:quote:Tail end of Gen X. They're the ones doing all this shite.
Are you a boomer?
I’ve never heard a Gen X’er shite on Gen X. They always claim moral high ground over millennials and boomers and point the finger at both
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:13 pm to lsupride87
quote:
What you will see in college now is some qbs getting their knees shredded Defnesive players should go as low as possible to ensure not being penalized
hitting low is a personal foul already. LSU was called for this on a INT against Florida in 2019 that would have iced the game. Defender hit Trask mid-thigh, and he was called for a personal foul for it being a low hit on the QB and the INT was called back
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:14 pm to lsufball19
quote:Not when they are simply standing in the pocket.The passing posture was defined as in the act of throwing. You can smoke them low. It is only a penalty when they are in the act of passing
hitting low is a personal foul already
It’s now a penalty to hit a Qb high in college even if he isn’t passing. Which means if you are smart you will aim at the knees. Because if you go for the waist and the Qb ducks you are getting flagged now
Now The wording of “passing posture when the Qb is looking downfield” that was added this year is horseshite
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:22 pm to lsupride87
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Not when they are simply standing in the pocket
incorrect. From the 2021 rule book
quote:
b. When an offensive player is in a passing posture with one or both feet on the ground, no defensive player rushing unabated shall hit the player forcibly at the knee area or below. The defensive player also may not initiate a roll or lunge and forcibly hit this opponent in the knee area or below. [Exceptions: (1) It is not a foul if the offensive player is a runner not in a passing posture, either inside or outside the tackle box. (2) It is not a foul if the defender grabs or wraps this opponent in an attempt to make a conventional tackle without making forcible contact with the head or shoulder. (3) It is not a foul if the defender is not rushing unabated or is blocked or fouled into this
opponent.]
LINK
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:24 pm to lsufball19
quote:I think you missed that part. In college, not the nfl, you can smoke a qbs knees as long as you wrap up during the hit. In the NFL it’s a penalty regardless if any contact is made at the knee area
(2) It is not a foul if the defender grabs or wraps this opponent in an attempt to make a conventional tackle without making forcible contact with the head or shoulder.
The smart technique to teach for a college coach is to hit and wrap at the knee area of a QB. If you say waist area, it’s too risky now becasue if the Qb ducks the upper chest area will come into play
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:32 pm to lsupride87
quote:
In college, not the nfl, you can smoke a qbs knees as long as you wrap up during the hit
not if you lunge and/or twist and roll on the tackle you can't. The rule actually is identical this year as it was last year with respect to low hits. No, you can't just smoke a QBs knees unless he's not in a passing posture and made himself a runner or he's not rushing unabated. You can conventionally wrap him up at the knees, which would not qualify as smoking a Qb at the knees.
LINK
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:33 pm to lsufball19
Ok. The smart play is to “hit a Qb at the knees conventionally” 
Trying to hit them hard at the waist area seems like a bad idea now. When a Qb isnt actually passing, they almost all turtle and crouch before contact. That’s 15 yards now
It should be simple. You can’t hit a Qb with the crown of your helmet anywhere. Besides that there isn’t a penalty as long as they are holding the ball
Trying to hit them hard at the waist area seems like a bad idea now. When a Qb isnt actually passing, they almost all turtle and crouch before contact. That’s 15 yards now It should be simple. You can’t hit a Qb with the crown of your helmet anywhere. Besides that there isn’t a penalty as long as they are holding the ball
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:42 pm to Civildawg
RIP Delivery Sack
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:48 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Trying to hit them hard at the waist area seems like a bad idea now
hitting a QB at the waist area is the safest place to hit them. Not leading with your helmet is a good idea too. No, you're not going to be able to avoid all targeting calls, which sucks, but that's the safest way to try to avoid that happening. If you go low thinking the QB will lower his body, you run the risk of getting called for a low hit on the QB
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:49 pm to Civildawg
They should just go ahead and put flags on the quarterback.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:54 pm to lsupride87
quote:They also cause these changes with class action , multi billion dollar lawsuits from ex players like Tony Dorsett, McMahon, etc... claiming that Leagues( Pro & College) don't enough to protect its players health.
Are you a boomer? Because they are the ones making the rule changes
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