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re: Attention NFL Draft fans and Kiper wannabes..
Posted on 1/25/11 at 11:47 am to Rollie Fingers
Posted on 1/25/11 at 11:47 am to Rollie Fingers
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sorry about spelling mistake frick faces.
frickface is one word.
frickface.
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Posted on 1/25/11 at 11:47 am to Rollie Fingers
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I kinda always thought Leaf got a raw deal. Drafted by schottenheimer, a grade a prick to a veteran team.
Marty wasn't coaching the Chargers when they drafted Leaf. hell, I don't think he was there when they drafted Brees and Tomlinson.
Posted on 1/25/11 at 11:47 am to Boh
maybe it was a harware error and I know how to spell the guys name. Some of you dudes need to be spelling bee judges.
This post was edited on 1/25/11 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 1/25/11 at 12:15 pm to reddman
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frickface is one word.
Posted on 1/25/11 at 12:15 pm to Rollie Fingers
I also think Quijina Carter was a bigger bust than maybe all of them. I think he played 2 to 3 games tops before injured.
Posted on 1/25/11 at 12:17 pm to Rollie Fingers
Ki Jana Carter or Quincy Carter?
Posted on 1/25/11 at 12:20 pm to Lester Earl
the Rb from pennn sta7te
Posted on 1/25/11 at 12:20 pm to Rollie Fingers
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Quijina Carter
Posted on 1/25/11 at 12:27 pm to Khameleon
Sorry about the spelling errors. My phone fell in the toilet when Lester's mom was giving me a rim job in the NO airport lue.
This post was edited on 1/25/11 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 1/25/11 at 12:29 pm to Rollie Fingers
Has Adamm chimed in yet?
Posted on 1/25/11 at 12:30 pm to Rollie Fingers
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Quijina
Posted on 1/25/11 at 12:32 pm to Telephone Tough Guy
Why are people bringing up RBs and LBs in a QB bust thread?
Posted on 1/25/11 at 1:07 pm to Rollie Fingers
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The biggest draft QB bust is not J. Russel or Ryan Leaf. It is Matt Lienart. Russel and Ryan at least played for a season or multiple seasons. Heath Shuler was also a bigger disaster than Leaf and Russel. Get it right please.
Are you a LSU fan/alum???
Posted on 1/25/11 at 1:19 pm to Sophandros
quote:that mofo beat out Jerry Stovall for the Heisman - Stovall should have won.
Actually, that honor would have to go to Terry Baker, #1 overall pick in 1963. Look him up.
Posted on 1/25/11 at 1:21 pm to bayou2003
Pretty stupid comment by OP.... Leinart has not been great, or maybe good... but he really hasn't had much of a chance. I grew up in AZ and am (unfortunately) a Cardinals fan... as soon as Wisenhunt came it it was clear he did not like Leinart.
Leinart had a decent/good rookie year, and was then supplanted by a HOF quarterback. The situation was not optimal, and when he opened his mouth that it was personal he was just cut. He still has a chance to go out and find a starting job, and it is possible he will find one and turn out to be a decent QB. Unfortunately he is currently behind another very good QB, but probably he'll be traded or re-sign with so many teams needing help at that position. Again, as others have said, he was 10th in the draft, and wasn't even the first QB taken that year... I would agree "disappointing" is appropriate but not "bust". No way.
Russell is the biggest bust, IMHO. He was the first pick in the draft- which is not usually reserved for needs by any team, but for the best overall athlete. Leaf cannot claim that. And he's been terrible. And he's not even playing anymore, so he's done. As things stand, Leinart is still an NFL football player, and Russell is just a fat unemplyment benefit recipient.
Leinart had a decent/good rookie year, and was then supplanted by a HOF quarterback. The situation was not optimal, and when he opened his mouth that it was personal he was just cut. He still has a chance to go out and find a starting job, and it is possible he will find one and turn out to be a decent QB. Unfortunately he is currently behind another very good QB, but probably he'll be traded or re-sign with so many teams needing help at that position. Again, as others have said, he was 10th in the draft, and wasn't even the first QB taken that year... I would agree "disappointing" is appropriate but not "bust". No way.
Russell is the biggest bust, IMHO. He was the first pick in the draft- which is not usually reserved for needs by any team, but for the best overall athlete. Leaf cannot claim that. And he's been terrible. And he's not even playing anymore, so he's done. As things stand, Leinart is still an NFL football player, and Russell is just a fat unemplyment benefit recipient.
This post was edited on 1/25/11 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 1/25/11 at 2:04 pm to gabster121
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Russell is the biggest bust, IMHO. He was the first pick in the draft- which is not usually reserved for needs by any team, but for the best overall athlete. Leaf cannot claim that. And he's been terrible. And he's not even playing anymore, so he's done. As things stand, Leinart is still an NFL football player, and Russell is just a fat unemplyment benefit recipient.
I find that saying Russell was a bigger bust just because Leaf was #2 to be ridiculous. Russell is a huge bust not doubt at this point, but let's remember the Leaf situation. He was considered 1A/1B with Manning. It came down to preference for many many people on who should go first as I remember it. Also, it seemed that both were considered "can't miss" and for much of that college season were labeled 1A/1B for the draft. Jamarcus as I recall didn't start getting #1 hype until late and even when it became more obvious he would be the pick, still many doubted he would be successful, much more so than Leaf. That is why I have Leaf labeled a bigger bust, his hype as I recall it was much higher, and opinion more solidified of his future success.
Posted on 1/25/11 at 3:23 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
the reason lienart is worse is:
1. you used a high draft pick for a back up qb
2. you have overpaid a guy to stand on the sideline instead of develop or fail and get off the books.
3. you cant really draft any more qbs until the guy inevitably tanks.
Posted on 1/25/11 at 3:26 pm to Rollie Fingers
nice work in this thread MSB rejects who believe knowing how to spell players name = football accumen.
Posted on 1/25/11 at 3:50 pm to Rollie Fingers
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the reason lienart is worse is: 1. you used a high draft pick for a back up qb
The raiders used a high pick on a guy who's not in the league anymore so what are you trying to get at?
Posted on 1/25/11 at 3:52 pm to gabster121
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Pretty stupid comment by OP.... Leinart has not been great, or maybe good... but he really hasn't had much of a chance. I grew up in AZ and am (unfortunately) a Cardinals fan... as soon as Wisenhunt came it it was clear he did not like Leinart.
he didn't like him because he didn't work hard
mostly the same flaw as JR IMO (although I like Leinarts vice of nailing co-eds more than JRs of drinking juice)
Between teh two franchises you'd LOVE to come to teh Arizona Cardinals with outstanding WRs and stable coaches... and HATE to go to teh Raiders with constant coaching turnover and instability from teh top down
JR is the bigger bust because he was drafted higher but Leinart definitely squandered teh better opportunity
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