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re: Armstrong Officially Stripped of Tour Titles
Posted on 8/24/12 at 6:45 pm to acgeaux129
Posted on 8/24/12 at 6:45 pm to acgeaux129
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Well, you are an intellectually weak douche then. He may be an a-hole, but this does not make it fair or right. You seem like a liberal.
You seem like a hack to make that kind of connection.
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 6:48 pm to mattz1122
Moderately tongue in cheek. But I'm not a hack. I'm just right.
It was the same shitty attitude displayed by numerous soccer fans this past season. I don't like Suarez/Terry, so I am glad they are getting dicked over in a PC witch hunt.
It was the same shitty attitude displayed by numerous soccer fans this past season. I don't like Suarez/Terry, so I am glad they are getting dicked over in a PC witch hunt.
This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 8/24/12 at 7:50 pm to acgeaux129
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Armstrong will likely be stripped of his seven Tour de France titles, despite the fact that he passed every test given to him at that time. Fine.
If it happens, the logical victor of the 2005 Tour is Cadel Evans. Evans finished 8th in the part of the race in which people actually pedaled, but the seven riders in front of him are all proven cheats. Congrats to Cadel.
Posted on 8/25/12 at 3:39 am to H-Town Tiger
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This attitude is by far the most depressing aspect of this. Wow, so someone that is super successful is an a-hole, big deal. Why does that make it OK to just keep investigating him until we get the results we want.
No, no, no. Him bring an a-hole is the least of why they hate him. I was just calling him that cause he is. He deserves everything bad that's happened to him but I feel like the charity might be the tragic casualty in this. Hopefully he redeems his assholishness a little bit by distancing himself from them, but he's a piece of shite, so who knows.
Posted on 8/25/12 at 7:09 am to Froman
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He deserves everything bad that's happened to him
Why?
Posted on 8/25/12 at 1:25 pm to Roaad
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I'd be willing to bet that all the 2nd-10th place guys aren't having their tests redone 10+ years after the fact.
I saw some news report that was asking, if Lance is stripped of his maillot jaune, who would get it. Of his 7 titles, only one nearly-anonymous cyclist has been on the podium who has not been charged or implicated in some doping scandal of some type. That is, out of 14 second and third place finishes in the years that Lance won, only one has not been suspected as dirty.
Posted on 8/25/12 at 1:44 pm to O
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Former champion Miguel Indurain says Lance Armstrong should keep his seven Tour de France titles until drug charges are proven by a single authority recognized by everyone in the sport.
Five-time Tour winner Indurain says "until an organization recognized by all decides to the contrary, the Tour victories are his."
ndurain, who won five straight Tours from 1991-95, says there are too many national and international bodies with differing interests in the fight against doping.
Indurain also calls the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency's case against Armstrong "strange," claiming its pursuit of the American was "without scruples."
The Spanish cyclist, writing in Saturday's Marca newspaper, says he isn't surprised Armstrong chose not to contest charges from USADA, which also banned him from professional cycling.
Posted on 8/26/12 at 4:33 pm to SPEEDY
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congrats usada. you accomplished NOTHING
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In his first public appearance since announcing he would no longer fight doping charges brought by USADA, Armstrong finished second in a 36-mile mountain bike race in Aspen, Colorado, five minutes behind a 16-year-old rider, Keegan Swirbul.
congrats usada. you accomplished NOTHING
This post was edited on 8/26/12 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 8/27/12 at 12:33 pm to CAD703X
Why spend millions of his person money defending himself at this point?
He never failed a test, he will sue them for defamation in a few months.....
He never failed a test, he will sue them for defamation in a few months.....
Posted on 8/27/12 at 2:52 pm to the LSUSaint
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He never failed a test, he will sue them for defamation in a few months.....
USADA doesn't have the power to subpoena other athletes to testify against him. they're abusing their power because they know some cyclists were required to testify as part of the government's case against lance...which incidently was dropped.
usada is way out of control on this one. its funny travis tygart is critcizing a 'win at all costs' mentality with regards to cycling considering how he's run a vendatta against lance on this.
his last tdf win was 7 years ago WHO THE frick CARES NOW? there's nothing in the top 10 finishers but convicted drug cheats in those years.
let's give it to another cheat who WAS convicted of doping.
YOU'VE SOLVED THE CRIME USADA!!!!
This post was edited on 8/27/12 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 8/27/12 at 6:43 pm to Big Sway
I don't believe any of this bullcrap. Lance Armstrong will always be a hero to me, beating cancer and becoming the best cyclist EVER. The governing bodies of cycling can all go screw themselves.
Posted on 8/28/12 at 4:24 pm to LSUfanaddict
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USADA has 'no legal right' to strip Lance Armstrong
by: Peter Kogoy
From:The Australian
August 27, 201212:00AM
THE US Anti-Doping Agency has no jurisdiction or legal right to strip Lance Armstrong of his seven Tour de France titles, according to one of Australia's most senior officials.
Sydney's Phill Bates, a member of the international cycling union's arbitration tribunal, yesterday described USADA's actions against Armstrong as unenforceable and described the organisation's chief executive Travis Tygart as an "egomaniac publicity hunter".
"While Armstrong may have opted not to continue with his legal fight, USADA, a signatory to the WADA code, has no jurisdiction to punish or impose sanctions against any rider," Bates said.
"In addition, the Armstrong case also raises the legal issue of the meaning of article 17 of the WADA code, which imposes a limitation period of eight years for prosecuting doping cases.
"The article goes on to say that it also does not provide an agency's right to retest urine samples within a period of eight years from the date they were provided. The code says testing procedures require samples to be tested promptly.
"If USADA believes Armstrong has a case to answer, the ultimate judge should be the UCI, not a publicity-seeking chief executive hellbent on a witch-hunt to chop down the tallest poppy in our sport."
Former cycling superstar Miguel Indurain has also called on authorities to let Armstrong keep his seven Tour titles until any alleged drug charges are proven by "a single authority recognised by everyone in the sport".
Indurain, a five-time Tour winner, said: "Until an organisation recognised by all parties decides to the contrary, the Tour victories are his."
The Spaniard said there were too many national and international bodies with differing interests in the fight against doping. Indurain also called the US Anti-Doping Agency's case against Armstrong "strange", claiming its pursuit of the rider was "without foundation or scruples".
Bates said the rules relating to what powers a doping agency has were quite clear.
"USADA, or any other national anti-doping agency for that matter, is there to test for illicit drugs, nothing more, nothing less," he said.
"It has no legal right to strip an athlete of his race wins, Olympic medals or prizemoney.
"People will make up their own minds about Armstrong after he stopped his legal battle, but from where I sit Tygart's actions should be seen as nothing more than a witch-hunt.
"Everything I've read of the USADA case has been driven by Tygart and against Armstrong built on hearsay evidence provided by a small group of riders who rode with him more than 12 years ago, and some of whom are still competing today.
"If Tygart and USADA believe otherwise, then why not make public the agency's findings and have them tested before the appropriate court?"
This post was edited on 8/28/12 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 9/3/12 at 8:20 pm to O
If I were him I would call a press conference and leak before hand that he would be making a big announcement.
Then walk up to the podium and tell them all they can go get fricked as far as he is concerned. Then just calmly turn around and walk off.
Then walk up to the podium and tell them all they can go get fricked as far as he is concerned. Then just calmly turn around and walk off.
Posted on 9/3/12 at 10:23 pm to Ponchy Tiger
So was Armstrong ever stripped of the titles?
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