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Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:24 am to Goldrush25
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Meh, people think he's going to just give up a $30 million/year job because this is the latest national outrage.
People in high ranking positions of fortune 500 hundred company's get replaced, fired & resign more then you realize. No amount of salary protects Goodell from being terminated of his job for having poor judgement especially when a large part of his job revolves around dealing with making tough judgements in it self.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:26 am to ApexTiger
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Zimmerman was consider a cold blood murderer until his trial proved otherwise.
Well to be fair, I think its been proven he is a pretty psychotic guy.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:30 am to ApexTiger
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In all seriousness the President of NOW making a statement the commish must resign.. I mean that's agenda if there ever was one. Liberal organization as it gets
the NFL commish must resign because he didn't come down hard enough on Ray Rice, though Ray Rice is now unemployed. What does NOW expect at this point?
Wait, this is all a liberal agenda because the National Organization of WOMEN is upset about the clear cover-up involving severe physical abuse of a WOMAN by a public figure? You special.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 9:33 am
Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:45 am to DelU249
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the owners didn't go on cbs and lie, the owners didn't release a statement that was a lie...lying wasn't the owners decision
Owners run the NFL. You'd be naive to think otherwise. Goodell acts in their interests.
He's taking the heat. As long as the owners don't take any heat, he's safe. The minute they start to take real heat is the minute Goodell isn't doing what they want him to, and that's when it gets dicey for him.
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People in high ranking positions of fortune 500 hundred company's get replaced, fired & resign more then you realize. No amount of salary protects Goodell from being terminated of his job for having poor judgement especially when a large part of his job revolves around dealing with making tough judgements in it self.
I said give up a $30 million/year job. That means resign. That's not going to happen.
Now could he be terminated? Sure. But the focus of this entire ordeal is on him. No culpability has been laid at the feet of the owners yet, who Goodell does his bidding for. Unless that happens Goodell is not in danger of losing his job.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 9:48 am
Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:51 am to Goldrush25
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Owners run the NFL. You'd be naive to think otherwise. Goodell acts in their interests.
so goodell was told to lie, the owners unanimously came to that decision when it had no benefit to them whatsoever...the NFL responded within an hour...roger runs their PR, he is their PR...I would be shocked that owners were consulted and ok'd lying about something so fricking stupid
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No culpability has been laid at the feet of the owners yet
yet being an important part of that...Richardson's dramatics last night were pretty revealing. Goodell is tapped out on heat taking
they need a face through this, it looks like they're getting a little more directly involved with the public relations part, and damn, these owners aren't good on camera facing softballs about inconsequential things, they're going to look silly facing anything resembling heat 
Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:59 am to DelU249
Target the sponsors...
This is how you get Goodell out. The owners need to feel the pressure of the sponsors threatening to leave.
This is how you get Goodell out. The owners need to feel the pressure of the sponsors threatening to leave.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:01 am to TOKEN
Target Microsoft. When they have to start reviewing plays on $50 Acer tablets, maybe something will be done.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:03 am to Goldrush25
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Goodell is doing his job, which is taking the heat for the owners. As long as the finger doesn't get pointed towards them and none of this affects the bottom line (which it won't) I don't see him going anywhere.
Let's not act like ALL the owners love Goodell.
I think he has strong support with the executive committee of owners. Kraft, Jones etc.. Many hate his heavy handed tactics towards drug use and other minor crimes.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:09 am to TOKEN
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Target the sponsors... This is how you get Goodell out. The owners need to feel the pressure of the sponsors threatening to leave.
Well yeah. If the sponsors voiced intent to leave that would definitely do the trick. But does anyone really see that happening? McDonalds, Coca-cola, Budweiser are going to terminate their relationship with the NFL? I don't see it.
Like I said, they'll definitely hunker down and try to wait this out. I think they all know this is bad but something else could easily happen within the next few weeks to make people forget about this.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 10:10 am
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:09 am to TOKEN
Jerry cant really be too pleased with Goodell right now. He is getting dragged into this b/c of something that would normally be blown off by the public as a skeezy road lizard looking to extort him. Now his name is front and center when media and other organizations criticize the NFL for its issues with the treatment of women by its employees.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:12 am to Dr RC
jerry the gm also must have loved when roger dodger penalized his cap for doing nothing wrong in an uncapped year
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:13 am to Goldrush25
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think they all know this is bad but something else could easily happen within the next few weeks to make people forget about this.
or take it to another level
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:23 am to Goldrush25
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Meh, people think he's going to just give up a $30 million/year job because this is the latest national outrage.
Yeah because nobody ever making that type of money has never had to resign from a position from having bad judgment, ever.
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Owners run the NFL.
Where in my previous posts did I indicate I that felt that owners didn't run the NFL? Goodell is a singular face representing all 32 owners.
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He's taking the heat.
No shite. And he will continue to take heat. You are quick to point out that the NFL is run by the owners & Goodell is just doing their bidding, well guess who will end up the scapegoat here if this continues to linger?
In a business that sells itself on its reputation as family entertainment, I have a strong feeling many of the league’s sponsors are not very happy right now because they have given millions of dollars & in some cases billions, to an organization that is taking a negative PR beating right now. Bottom line is that if sponsors begin to pressure the owners behind the scenes then they will be forced to ask Goodell to resign or they will be forced to fire him.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:28 am to Goldrush25
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Well yeah. If the sponsors voiced intent to leave that would definitely do the trick. But does anyone really see that happening? McDonalds, Coca-cola, Budweiser are going to terminate their relationship with the NFL? I don't see it.
No, the sponsors will never just give up & pull their sponsorships but you can best believe they will have leverage to force changes to be made by the owners. One of the biggest changes would be to remove Goodell. Face it, Goodell face is front & center in this whole controversy. In order for this controversy to begin to go away, that face would have to be removed.
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:30 am to BigBrod81
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they will have leverage to force changes
they also have a window here to get some of their pennies that have been squeezed back
the price goes down or we pull out and humiliate you...and it could encourage others to follow
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:37 am to BigBrod81
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You are quick to point out that the NFL is run by the owners & Goodell is just doing their bidding
the wild card is that NO ONE has any clue as to the inner workings of the NFL. I believe that in PR matters Roger isn't managed, he has a free hand.
the timing of the NFL's denial suggests 1 of 3 things. Either
Within an hour, roger rounded up 32 owners and they came to a majority decision that the best option is to publicly lie...this is a bad scenario for those who want goodell gone. They're not going to fire someone who will just turn around and point the finger in their direction
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Roger was the trigger man...didn't consult (didn't need to) and just made the call himself...this is the scenario that could result in termination
OR
The NFL knew well in advance of Monday, that TMZ had the tape and was releasing it...doubtful because the release and additional suspension seemed so reactionary. However, who made the decision to obviously lie and so publicly and take them down a road so fraught with potential complications
if they think they can bunker up and ride out THIS storm, then why wasn't that their plan from the get go before they went on national television and lied
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:41 am to BigBrod81
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No, the sponsors will never just give up & pull their sponsorships but you can best believe they will have leverage to force changes to be made by the owners. One of the biggest changes would be to remove Goodell. Face it, Goodell face is front & center in this whole controversy. In order for this controversy to begin to go away, that face would have to be removed.
Sponsors may take the same stance as the NFL; hunker down and wait for this to go away. They are on the NFL's side, unless their bottom line is somehow affected.
Are people going to stop watching? We know they aren't. That's the biggest reason why nothing will happen to Goodell, IMO. I could be wrong though.
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No shite. And he will continue to take heat. You are quick to point out that the NFL is run by the owners & Goodell is just doing their bidding, well guess who will end up the scapegoat here if this continues to linger?
My point is, this is all outrage and bluster today. But what will come of it? Are people going to be outraged enough to stop watching games or buying products that the NFL sponsors? If the answer is no, then what is the financial harm being done to the product?
I guess I'm a bit skeptical of the average NFL fan's conviction.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 9/11/14 at 10:52 am to Goldrush25
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Are people going to stop watching? We know they aren't
women are the most sought after demographic and they're 30 percent of the NFL's audience...they make the purchasing decisions more often than not
look at ABC's sunday lineup and ask yourself who they're clearly targeting...cable is for men, the networks are going after women.
so, how do you KNOW this...the most probable outcome? yes. I'm not watching, and it's because I've come to the point where the league has no integrity. Anything is possible with them, fixed games, retaliatory calls and behavior. the product is watered down, and I've reached the point where they've devalued me as a consumer so much (noooo, we're not lying...dumbass) that my enjoyment is surpassed by the negative feelings I have watching it. Either they think we're stupid or we lack any constitution to stick to our ethical and moral foundations. And they're probably right, but still...I'm done.
I hope I can cancel my ST package, I paid for the full year.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:00 am to Goldrush25
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My point is, this is all outrage and bluster today.
This probably the biggest unknown here. I will say this though, if Rice or the NFLPA take this to court & continues to keep this issue in the news then that will be the worse possible outcome for Goodell & the league.
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That's the biggest reason why nothing will happen to Goodell, IMO.
Another factor that you are overlooking is that Goodell has based his entire tenure as commissioner as being judge, jury & executioner for all issues on & off the field. At this point, his lost all credibility when it comes to his judgement. In no shape or form does it benefit the owners & the league to have a commissioner who is basically a lame duck, toothless horse with no bite. Goodell from here on out, if allowed to continue at his job, would face criticism & have his authority challenged at every turn when faced with have to make a judgment.
If he somehow manages to survive, there is no way he continues as commissioner with the same leverage as before. The owners will have to weigh on this heavily as they decide how they will ultimately handle this situation.
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