re: Annual LOL at Big 12 March Meltdown

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Kinda like what everyone does during the bowl season

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by everyone you mean SEC fans (except for 2014 ) and that is equally stupid

That's because SECtards beat their chest all the time about bowl records

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Why are random games in December more meaningful, especially it is a home/road game?

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It's not one random game that is more important but the cumulative total of entire season 30+ games spread out over a season.

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Like I said above, I agree that people go a bit overboard on judging conferences off the 1 game the teams play in the tourney.


However, what people are responding to is the way narratives develop that certain conferences are so much better than others by the end of December and then the teams in that conference mainly only play each other.

Those narratives aren't based on 30+ games but on usually 5 or 6 OOC games against decent opponents very early in the season (in which anything can happen as well -- key players missing, teams with good coaches/young players actually improving, etc)


Yes, the Nov-Dec OOC games certainly offer more "data" but there is some logic to weighing the NCAA tourney games a bit more heavily since it's the end of the season and it really should be every teams best effort.

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clearly SEC fans have put way more stock in it over the years

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People keeping track of conference records during bowl seasons is definitely something everyone has done for a while

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People keeping track of conference records during bowl seasons is definitely something everyone has done for a while

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I don't even know what this is supposed to mean

of course records are tracked and noted, so what. That doesn't mean it was as important to other conferences as it was to the SEC tards. Or that it was used outside the SEC to "prove" anything the way it was by SEC fans. Most other schools don't care about how the "conference" does like the SEC.

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I don't even know what this is supposed to mean

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that people have used bowl records to figure out conference strength for a while and it hasn't just been a SEC thing

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That doesn't mean it was as important to other conferences as it was to the SEC tards. Or that it was used outside the SEC to "prove" anything the way it was by SEC fans. Most other schools don't care about how the "conference" does like the SEC.

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hat people have used bowl records to figure out conference strength for a while and it hasn't just been a SEC thing

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That's where i disagree, it has been over whelmingly used by SEC tards to brag, where as most other "conferences" fans care only about their team. I don't think you and other Aggies (or Baylor fans or Tech fans) were running around bragging about the Big XII winning the NC when Texas beat USC.


However, Noting records =/= using it to figure out conference strength in part because it is a stupid measure. The SEC West was 2-5 in bowls 2 years ago, anyone that think that it wasn't the best division is an idiot.

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Also how the frick can no one win that conference besides Kansas the last 12 years

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bandwagon.

team is stocked.
guys are in the NBA.
new coach was good before.

rolling rolling rolling.

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Unfortunately most people (and SEC are particularly bad about this) don't get the differences are marginal and not overwhelming, however, based on the overall season, I don't think you can make a rational case that USCe or Florida where as good Baylor and Texas, nor TTU and Bama or UGA. Look at the RPI's. Texas beat UNC, does anyone in the SEC save for Kentucky even have an OOC game, let alone a win close to that?

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I did say that these teams had slightly better resumes but just not that overwhelming a difference to always justify their positions on the S-curve relative completely out of the field.

And that the difference is almost completely based on performance against teams from the conference and not really OOC performances:


OOC


Baylor 0-2 vs Top50 RPI (Lost @Texas A&M by 19 and @Oregon by 7)



Florida 2-3 vs Top 50 RPI
(Beat West Virginia at home by 17 and St Joes (N) by 9, and Lost @Mich St by 5, @Purdue(N) by 15 and @Miami by 11)



Texas Tech 2-1 vs Top 50 RPI
(beat South Dakota St at Home by 8, Arkansas Little Rock at Home by 12 and Lost to Utah(N) by 10)

Alabama 2-3 vs Top 50 RPI
(Beat Wichita St (N) by 4 and Beat Notre Dame (N) by 1, Lost to Oregon (N) by 4, @Dayton by 19 and Xavier(N) by 32)




Again, this is just the OOC games and I do know that the BIG12 teams above are in the tourney because they certainly did better in conference play and rightly so.


However, the point is that there's really not the huge difference people make out in OOC performance and, back to my original point, certainly not enough to say that the extra game against another quality OOC opponent in the NCAA tourney is so negligible.





About no one aside from Kentucky having a good OOC win, the Alabama and Florida ones above are certainly respectable and Texas A&M did manage to beat half the Big12 this year.

The ACC has a decent chance to have half the elite 8. That would be something.