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re: All you NIL worryers....

Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:36 pm to
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Walkons doesn’t care if Derek Stingley brings them more customers, they already have plenty. This is a simple, “Hey Derek, thanks for staying home and playing for LSU. Take this money as our way of saying thanks.”


Yup, Stingley might have some value right now but 99% of college players have no real NIL value.

Their value is to play, so you pay the player to sign or not transfer.
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
2588 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:38 pm to
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Who is going to stop me?


The law. The state NIL law prohibits an entity or person from the compensation of an athlete being contingent on admission to a school or on-field performance. NIL laws state compensation can only be provided for services rendered such as autographs, appearances, wearing their apparel.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:38 pm to
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The law. The state NIL law prohibits an entity or person from the compensation of an athlete being contingent on admission to a school or on-field performance. NIL laws state compensation can only be provided for services rendered such as autographs, appearances, wearing their apparel.


I don't live in Louisiana, lack of jurisdiction... dick weed.
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
2588 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:40 pm to
Every state has that verbiage. Sorry your mad that you don't know what the frick you are talking about. Its quite common on this board. College Football is not going anywhere.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:42 pm to
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Every state has that verbiage. Sorry your mad that you don't know what the frick you are talking about. Its quite common on this board. College Football is not going anywhere.


Most states don't even have a NIL, but even if it did it would only cover their state.
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
3640 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:42 pm to
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Money is the root of all evil.


Money is NOT the root of all evil, it is the LOVE of Money that is the root of all evil.
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
7274 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:43 pm to
I hope NIL isn’t used for this purpose.

It seems like the transfer portal is already doing this to some extent.
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
2588 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:45 pm to
All 22 states with laws or bills in place do. So does the NCAA. States without laws will have to abide by their schools' rules in meantime.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:47 pm to
How to do you explain the best team having to quit one game before the World Series. College sports is turning into pro sports and it’s nauseating
Posted by MrWalkingMan
Republic of West Florida
Member since Aug 2010
7944 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:49 pm to
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Pay to Play is not here.

All these legislatures and NCAA have said boosers or companies can not offer money contingent on a player's attendance at your school


I’m embarrassed for you. That you think this doesn’t already happen everywhere

quote:

the coach at USC telling every five star recruit in the country that if they come to USC they will have them lined up to have a role in the next Marvel movie.

This would make me not want to go there. Trash films.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25266 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:52 pm to
If you don't believe this will have an impact on recruting, I'm not sure how to explain it.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25266 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:53 pm to
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This would make me not want to go there. Trash film


I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess you're not 18.
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
2588 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 1:55 pm to
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I’m embarrassed for you. That you think this doesn’t already happen everywhere


I know that it happens. Do I care...no. Yes, 10-20 athletes get paid under the rug to go to a school. Nobody is paying substantial money to 100s of athletes to go to a school. Most people do not care that much. The thought that every player is getting paid under the rug is ridiculous. Yes, it may happen but it is not legal. Which is what I stated. Not that I didn't think it was happening. Keep your embarrassment for yourself. I don't want it or need it. At the end of the day CFB is not going anywhere.

There is not enough revenue in NCAA or school level to compensate all athletes. Even if so, you will get into Title IX real quick. A couple of people will get rich, but for the most part, not much is going to change.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 2:01 pm to
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All 22 states with laws or bills in place do.


So? Unless you can specifically show me where I am precluded from doing what I said, than its not of any value.

I can pay a player to attend LSU or pay them not to attend LSU.


A school in theory could pull the scholarship if they have a rule, but why would they do that?


quote:


So does the NCAA.


The NCAA has no power over me, and they can't enforce those new rules on the players anymore than the old ones. See DOJ letter and USSC ruling. Which is why they are hoping the schools enforce their own rules.

Why would a school do that?

quote:


States without laws will have to abide by their schools' rules in meantime.


The schools don't have to setup rules and they don't have to enforce them.

Do everyone a favor and stop posting on this subject.

Also, you seem very confused as to what the Louisiana law actually says.
This post was edited on 7/2/21 at 2:12 pm
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 2:06 pm to
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I’m embarrassed for you. That you think this doesn’t already happen everywhere


Oh its happening now, just not at scale. Also, bidding can now be in the open. Hard to push a million in a paper bag.

Now... the player can just transfer as well, so its free agency every year.
This post was edited on 7/2/21 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
2588 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 2:11 pm to
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The NCAA has no power over me, and they can't enforce those new rules anymore than the old ones. See DOJ letter and USSC ruling.


I've seen both. Every State will have laws. They are all working on them.

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Do everyone a favor and stop posting on this subject


Why? So you can post stupid hypotheticals of shite that already happens that goes unchecked. I just don't understand the "end of college football" fear. I guess have fun in your echo chamber get off my lawn takes and wishful thinking that you had the cabbage to pay players.
Posted by joshreed293
Member since Sep 2015
127 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Okay, but how do you explain the record crowd at the College World Series this week?


Mississippi state fans dying to be in Omaha.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 2:13 pm to
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I've seen both. Every State will have laws. They are all working on them.


So?

Even under Louisiana's law I can pay a HS player to attend LSU or attend an out of state school... even if I was in Louisiana. (see the law).

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Why? So you can post stupid hypotheticals of shite that already happens that goes unchecked. I just don't understand the "end of college football" fear. I guess have fun in your echo chamber get off my lawn takes and wishful thinking that you had the cabbage to pay players.


You're the dumb arse that said I couldn't pay players, when in FACT I can. There isn't one thing that you have been able to show that I can't pay players to attend a school.
This post was edited on 7/2/21 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
2588 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 2:15 pm to
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Even under Louisiana's law I can pay a HS player to attend LSU or attend an out of state school... even if I was in Louisiana. (see the law)


No you can't. (see the law)

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You're the dumb arse that said I couldn't pay players, when in FACT I can.


Sure if they attend LSU and they perform a service for you. That is if you want to do it per the law. If not, do what you want.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64575 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 2:18 pm to
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The law. The state NIL law prohibits an entity or person from the compensation of an athlete being contingent on admission to a school or on-field performance.


Sure we aren’t paying the player simply for choosing lsu.



How would the ncaa prove that?

Remember Will Wade made a strong arse offer to Javonte Smart. Will Wade is still the LSU coach because he said that offer was a great scholarship and a chance to start his freshman year. How can the NCAA prove different?

How is the NCAA going to prove that all of the Bama players driving dodge chargers is not simply because they chose to play at Bama?

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