re: 10,000 meters, Olympics

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Finns are so into olympics. They caught caught for cheating a couple of times. If the usa cared about 10000 we would have more native americans in 10000. Money talks.

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You're being a misleading penis wiper again, Otto. The US, Spain, Kenya, and Russia all have far more banned track and field athletes than Finland. In fact, i would be shocked if you could tell us how many international medal winners have been convicted of doping from each of these countries...I'm all ears

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I want to use this thread just to mention the 10k world record is 26:17. That is 4:12 mile pace

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Yeah, the top finishers in the Crescent City Classic typically finish around that half hour mark. It's crazy to think that people are finishing the race as I'm hitting the half way point (on a good day)

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You're being a misleading penis wiper again, Otto. The US, Spain, Kenya, and Russia all have far more banned track and field athletes than Finland. In fact, i would be shocked if you could tell us how many international medal winners have been convicted of doping from each of these countries...I'm all ears

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Viren was almost certainly blood doping, but it wasn't illegal at the time

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I always ran much faster on grass or roads than on a track.

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That's because most mile/2 mile/5k/10k road and cross country races are measured by some jackleg who walked or biked the course with his Garmin or a jones counter instead of using a properly tensioned steel tape. In short, most non-track races are shorter than the advertised distance. A track, of course, does not lie.

Meh...

It felt more natural running on a field.

Track paved surfaces always felt weird. We had one track meet in some cow town and their track was all dirt...and it was the fastest 400 I ever ran.

But again, I don't quite know what crap artificial surfaces high schools were using. Probably cheap asphalt. There was zero rubber feel. It was black and a very hard unforgiving surface.