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Will PCG go to zero?

Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:20 am
Posted by Bone06
USA
Member since Feb 2008
1878 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:20 am
I'm in on PCG for 2k shares at 5.26. Thinking about a few thousand more since it dropped into the 3.50 range this morning. I do not understand enough about stocks to know if the largest utility company in California can go to zero or if the government will step in and take over? What will happen to the stock if California decides to take over the company?
Posted by chillygentilly
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 12:19 pm to
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I do not understand enough about stocks to know if the largest utility company in California can go to zero or if the government will step in and take over? What will happen to the stock if California decides to take over the company?


CA could very well step in and the commons still get wiped.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7696 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 8:32 pm to
Yeah, the company may not go away, but it will have new ownership and the shareholders may well get zeroed out.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4089 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:36 pm to
Believe me, I’m not trying to be a richard or anything... but you just said that you’ve got over 10 grand tied up in this stock, and you’re thinking about sinking thousands more into it, yet you say:

quote:

I do not understand enough about stocks to know if the largest utility company in California can go to zero


That just baffles me. No offense to you, but why do people put money into stocks or other investments, and they don’t fully (or even partially) understand the ramifications?

To answer your question, yes, they can go into bankruptcy without going out of business or liquidating. And yes, your (common) stock can certainly go to zero.
Posted by Bone06
USA
Member since Feb 2008
1878 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 6:09 am to
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That just baffles me. No offense to you, but why do people put money into stocks or other investments, and they don’t fully (or even partially) understand the ramifications?


I do partially understand the ramifications. Losing 10k would suck. I guess it's just like people who go to the casino, I'm trying to win big.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:22 am to
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I guess it's just like people who go to the casino, I'm trying to win big.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4089 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:38 am to
I invest some of the time. I trade some of the time. But no, I’m generally not one to gamble... especially if I don’t know the rules before I bet.

It’s just me, but I try to stick with higher probability trading and investment strategies that can be replicated. I tend to have lots of little winners and put a limit on the losers. Nothing wrong with taking a flier with some play money (like buying a lottery ticket), I suppose. But long term, they can seldom be replicated.

Good luck with it though.
Posted by Bone06
USA
Member since Feb 2008
1878 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:00 am to
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Good luck with it though.


I turned out okay. I got out this morning at 5.90 with a nice little gain. I just started playing around with stocks because I'm working in a location where playing poker is limited. Most of my extra money goes to real estate and 401k. I just asked the question on here because I was to lazy to find it after a few searches didn't give me a clear picture as to how likely it was.

Thank for the input
Posted by TexasTiger34
Austin, Kind of
Member since Mar 2008
11338 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:29 am to
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I guess it's just like people who go to the casino, I'm trying to win big.

i mean... i get this guys sentiment. loads of people go to casino's and throw thousands on poor choices, bets that are 100 to 1 odds. throwing a few thousand on a utility company that millions of people rely upon, that has been been to the bottom and back already once before, that could be bailed out by a number of different entities really isn't that bad of a gamble relatively speaking(to a casino). But, agreed, let's not talk about "investing" in PCG like it's some strategic move, it's not. It's 100% gamble at this point.
This post was edited on 10/30/19 at 9:30 am
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82025 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:38 am to
Speculating in one's portfolio is fine. Just gotta make sure it's not a big piece of the pie.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12978 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 1:52 pm to
it's very hard for a utility to go under, it's not like people are going to stop buying electricity
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82025 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:36 am to
I have this on my watch list and this thing has wild swings lately. Anyone trading this guy?
I don't do options, but looks like this would be a perfect candidate.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4089 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 8:49 am to
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it's very hard for a utility to go under, it's not like people are going to stop buying electricity


It’s not that PCG would go under or that people would stop buying electricity. But when you buy common equity in a distressed company, you have to understand what you’re buying and what your position is. And with common equity, you’re generally in last place in the event of a bankruptcy.

GM didn’t go out of business and people continued buying Chevys and GMCs. But after the Chapter 11, the common shareholders were essentially wiped out.

All I’m saying is, when playing with a distressed (or really any) company’s common stock, be aware. That’s all.

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