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re: Will a Beach condo pay for itself by renting it ?

Posted on 4/19/18 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by blupony
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 6:49 pm to
I stand corrected...1 million for $12k property tax.

But that is Florida, where they have no income tax, so they make up for it in property taxes.

I pay close to the same amount of property tax for my properties in Tampa than I do for ones that assess for twice as much in Orange Beach.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33860 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 9:37 am to
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As said, in 2006-2012ish you could. Now the purchase prices are too high to get a reasonable return for the most part. Its possible, but not very likely.


I'll second this. I got lucky and found one a couple up north wanted to get out of. It's covering it's expenses and that's about it. My equity has made a nice jump in a year and a half though. It's a 5-10 year investment for me
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:12 am to
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The last beach condo I bought was in Orange Beach in 2015 and I am grossing over 21%. Net over 13%. The one I bought in 2014 does 25% gross, and 15% net.



I don't believe that's possible. Please post location, size, price paid, income, and expenses.
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2141 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 11:46 am to
If your using mommy and daddy's money than sure.
Posted by blupony
Member since May 2014
66 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 5:25 pm to
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I don't believe that's possible. Please post location, size, price paid, income, and expenses.


Both are studio condos in Orange Beach
$85500 / $21100 / $8100
$96500 / $20600 / $7640



Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 1:49 am to
quote:

Both are studio condos in Orange Beach
$85500 / $21100 / $8100
$96500 / $20600 / $7640




yeah...right

Posted by blupony
Member since May 2014
66 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 7:48 pm to
Bumping this because 2 weeks ago I went under contract for a condo in Gulf Shores. Before I went to closing today I already have enough income from rentals to make a profit for 2018 after expenses.

Prorated for 2018 I am already over 6% gross and that is in less than 2 weeks before I even owned the unit.

Anyone who says there isn't money to be made in beach rentals just doesn't know what the hell they are doing.

Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/11/18 at 9:58 pm to
We got us a new sheriff in town boys.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2944 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Bumping this because 2 weeks ago I went under contract for a condo in Gulf Shores. Before I went to closing today I already have enough income from rentals to make a profit for 2018 after expenses.

Prorated for 2018 I am already over 6% gross and that is in less than 2 weeks before I even owned the unit.

Anyone who says there isn't money to be made in beach rentals just doesn't know what the hell they are doing.

Get back to us when the next 2008 happens
Posted by blupony
Member since May 2014
66 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 6:41 pm to
What happened in 2008 that affected income on beach rentals?

Did people quit going to the beach that year?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

Did people quit going to the beach that year?
i would think rentals were down but I haven’t done the research
Posted by blupony
Member since May 2014
66 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 10:27 pm to


If a 1% drop is the what I should be fearing, I think I'm good.
This post was edited on 5/12/18 at 10:31 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 12:37 pm to
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If a 1% drop is the what I should be fearing, I think I'm good.


I rented the same Destin beach house from 2002 until 2007, it was for sale the entire time, it started at $850K, and by 2007 the price was down to $50K. There were so many for sale signs down highway 98, you could no longer see the names of the condo buildings.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2944 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 1:35 pm to
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I rented the same Destin beach house from 2002 until 2007, it was for sale the entire time, it started at $850K, and by 2007 the price was down to $50K. There were so many for sale signs down highway 98, you could no longer see the names of the condo buildings.


One of my partners had 3 condos in Destin. He made it through but he did have to supplement them from his own income a bit. In 2007-2010 I stayed in the same two condos in Caribe Orange Beach. The condos we stayed in originally sold for about $650. They were short sold for about tree fiddy in 2010-11.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58107 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 3:53 pm to
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What happened in 2008 that affected income on beach rentals?

Did people quit going to the beach that year?


Yeah, people did kind of quit going and the whole pan handle of Fl took an arse beating for three or four years. You might could rent it, but it was for pretty cheap.
And so many people were in foreclosure and leaving that I've heard horror stories of the remaining owners having to pay a shitload of HOA fees.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

One of my partners had 3 condos in Destin. He made it through but he did have to supplement them from his own income a bit. In 2007-2010 I stayed in the same two condos in Caribe Orange Beach. The condos we stayed in originally sold for about $650. They were short sold for about tree fiddy in 2010-11.


I see I made a typo, the $50K was supposed to be $450K, but it may have eventually sold for even less. There were still people renting on the beach, but the owners were watching their equity evaporate, and tried to just get out of the properties before they were upside down on the mortgage.
Posted by blupony
Member since May 2014
66 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 6:14 pm to
Wow. Didn't think it affected rentals that much. Went to Orange Beach, Pensacola, and Panama Coty during those years for my sons travel baseball and everything seems pretty packed.

So was the main reason that a lot couldn't afford vacation after losing their home or the fact that there were so many rentals selling for pennies on the dollar that they were able to undercut the competition with lower rates and force them to have to sell...for pennies on the dollar?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48901 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 7:14 pm to
This thread
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33860 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 8:34 pm to
There is money to be made but i think you have to get a condo at the right price. I lucked up on getting my one bedroom for $150k
This post was edited on 5/13/18 at 9:46 pm
Posted by blupony
Member since May 2014
66 posts
Posted on 5/13/18 at 8:51 pm to
Sugar Beach?
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