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Which should I pay off?

Posted on 2/23/20 at 9:15 pm
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 9:15 pm
26k truck note or 15k in other debt?

This is money that I’ve saved up over the past couple of years. It does not include my reserve fund. I initially was going to pay off my truck ($580 a month) with it then roll that payment into paying off some other smaller debt. This way I’d lose a car payment and within the next year have all the other debt paid as well. This option would require 90% of my savings though. The other option is to keep the car note and pay off the smaller debts which would require about 60% of my savings. Smaller debt includes 2 credit cards, one which is interest free for 10 more months, and some no interest for 4 years credit lines. But the second option would push me paying my truck off for about 2 more years.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 9:27 pm to
Depends on the interest rate of each
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17796 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 9:31 pm to
Dave Ramsey says pay of the smaller debt first
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 9:31 pm to
Truck is 4.8, one credit card is 19% the interest free one is 15% and the other smaller interest free debt ranges from 4.5 to 12%.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89516 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 9:39 pm to
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Dave Ramsey says pay of the smaller debt first




Agreed. The debt snowball has you rank them from lowest balance to highest balance, pay ONLY the minimum on all but the lowest - throw everything at the lowest, then move on to the next one.
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 9:40 pm to
Payoff 19% one tomorrow. The way you explained the rates on the others confused me. If a card is internet free now, but will be double digits at at some point in the future, pay that off before you’re paying double digit interest l. The truck note rate isn’t great, but I would just keep paying it monthly, get rid off all other debt and invest difference
Posted by Stateguy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
887 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 9:42 pm to
If committed to paying them off (i.e. you won't run up credit cards again) on schedule you said, why not pay off higher interest rate first?
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 9:42 pm to
What if you owe $20,000 on a car note at 1.9% and 20,500 at 15% on a credit card. All situations are different the snowball method is simple for simple people
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89516 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 9:49 pm to
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What if you owe $20,000 on a car note at 1.9% and 20,500 at 15% on a credit card.


Now you're being silly.

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All situations are different the snowball method is simple for simple people


It is. It is for people who absolutely need help and it will work for virtually anyone who is in over their head.

It is not a min/max, A/B perfect net outcome analysis. It is about psychology and momentum. Folks who can formulate, follow and complete such an analysis rarely get that far into trouble in the first place.

It is very similar to what goes on with gambling (that also ties into the same areas of the brain involved with addiction) with the whole gratification/reward dynamic in the brain. And it absolutely will work for virtually everyone who follows the program.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 11:31 pm to
Dave Ramsey is a fricking joke
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11434 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 8:41 am to
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one credit card is 19%
Pay this one off ASAP

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the interest free one is 15% and the other smaller interest free debt ranges from 4.5 to 12%.
Say what?

Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 10:12 am to
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Dave Ramsey is a fricking joke


This used to be my default reply as well because most of his advice is not the most mathematically efficient. However, his advice is just as much a mental and emotional process as it is mathematical. Dave is good for people who are terrible at managing money, not for those looking to maximize their earning potential.
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:10 pm to
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Say what?


My credit lines that are currently in a no interest promo date will be 15% to 4.5% when that promo date expires
Posted by CajunTiger78
Member since Aug 2017
2528 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:16 pm to
Pay off your highest interest items first.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14509 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:55 pm to
My personal preference would be to pay off the $15k, and then aggressively pay down the truck.

But why accumulate the $15k in debt if you had the ability to put more than that into savings (after emergency funds)?

Will you need that $15k in liquid assets soon for a mortgage down payment or such?
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6452 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:58 pm to
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26k truck note or 15k in other debt?


quote:


Truck is 4.8, one credit card is 19% the interest free one is 15% and the other smaller interest free debt ranges from 4.5 to 12%.


Honestly Dave Ramsey is what you need.
Posted by mmiller52
Member since Feb 2020
44 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 5:56 pm to
It may be helpful to clarify for the board what your goal is in this decision.

If you’re asking simply about savings related to interest expenses, you can calculate how much interest will accrue on each separate debt in the time frame until it’s paid off.

If you can comfortably pay off the promo balances before the high interest rates kick in, with the money that you previously used to pay the truck note, that seems like it would be ideal.

If you pay off the credit card debts and continue paying your truck note, you may pay marginally more in interest than paying it off. That depends on long has the truck been financed and how long is left on the note.

On the flip side, if you pay off the truck and can’t pay the full promo balances by the time the interest kicks in, the higher interest rates are going to bite you long term. Also, not sure of the details of your promo plans, but I understand some of them tack on all the interest retroactively if you don’t pay them off by the end of the promo period. That’s something to consider, too.
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