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re: What’s going on with Exxon?

Posted on 5/26/21 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 2:26 pm to
SOB

Can we split the country up already?

I would love to know what major shareholders voted for this shite.

Literally shooting their investment in the foot. Also mine these bunch of fricking commies.
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 2:28 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 2:33 pm to
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I would love to know what major shareholders voted for this shite.


The institutional investors.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6635 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 2:34 pm to
Institutions own something like 70% of @XOM stock.
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:26 pm to
The three largest shareholders are vanguard, blackrock, and fidelity. I think the next grouping are large public pension funds.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:48 pm to
Blackrock has been pushing the new world order BS pretty hard these days.
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:52 pm to
I'd prefer not to get into the politics, but when you are a publicly traded company, you have to answer to shareholders.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 7:56 pm to
let me just say this as the money board’s resident treehugger.
if the mega corporations and billionaire investors don’t embrace protecting the resources remaining on this planet then the piddling efforts by individuals are and will be a complete waste of time, and it won’t happen.

we should all be able to agree that as of the foreseeable future there is only one place in the entire universe where we know we can live. If we do not change the mindset from exploitation to conservation we will eventually pay the ultimate price. Companies like Exxon can change the world for the better with a little courage and a lot of smart people
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:02 pm to
What does Exxon know about wind energy and solar? What do they bring to the table?
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:06 pm to
Honestly, the largest corporations attract some of the smartest engineers and scientists. If there will be solutions developed to solve the most challenging problems, then corporations will have to be part of that effort. Additionally, they marshall huge market power, spurring innovation in suppliers and service providers. So by adopting strategies and policies toward more renewables, they will drive more innovation if not in their own shop, then in their partners.
Posted by DeCat ODahouse
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:06 pm to
Speaking of shareholders, one of the major allies of those hostile to Exxon's current business model was Blackrock, whose voting clout is due to the money of participants in their market tracking ETFs, iShares to be specific.
Did Blackrock consult with their shareholders on a specific voting basis before proceeding on their decision to shake up XOM?

Does Blackrock own competitive stocks in their funds that might benefit from XOM being kneecapped?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:18 pm to
^^^
what he said
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:19 pm to
Shouldn’t those engineers be focused on reducing the impact of oil production and oil products where they have vast knowledge? I just don’t see the rationale for getting western companies out of extraction while the Middle East is expanding market share. Do people reallly think we’re going to be consuming considerably less oil and gas in the next 20 years? No reasonable forecast shows that. So we either have smart companies like Exxon with western values improving the process or leaving the market to non western players who are decades behind in the environmental programs.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43242 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:25 pm to
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Do people reallly think we’re going to be consuming considerably less oil and gas in the next 20 years? No reasonable forecast shows that

it will take much longer than that.
now is as good a time to start as any

the natural world runs on renewable energy. We are the only part of it that is dependent on a finite resource. We either get with the program that the creator intended or we have an expiration date
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:26 pm to
They are being forced down the same path as Shell and BP.
It’s way too soon for these kind of green energy dreams and will hurt shareholders.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28018 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:29 pm to
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natural world runs on renewable energy


Ok you’re trolling. Thanks
This post was edited on 5/26/21 at 8:30 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43242 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:38 pm to
not at all
I’m too old for nonsense like that

from a supernova to the fungus growing on a tree stump, the entire universe depends on the recycling of energy and matter. If you want to argue that humans are somehow immune to that I’m all ears.

what amuses me is that the sources of renewable energy are cheaper than the extraction of fossil fuels in almost all instances. We just need to put our brain power to the task of making the delivery of those energy sources more efficient. Dream big
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28018 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:48 pm to
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what amuses me is that the sources of renewable energy are cheaper than the extraction of fossil fuels in almost all instances.

I’m struggling with the concept that people intentionally would pay more for energy than required. I think renewables have a place but you can’t use solar in Alaska for example. You can’t use hydro in Australia. You can’t use wind in places with variable wind seasons.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43242 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 8:56 pm to
that’s the problem that has to be solved.
nuclear has to be a part of it but not the way we do it now (fission).

the answer is out there and only requires effort and determination to succeed. My point about the natural world is that the desired and optimal end result is already there for us to observe. We just need to figure out how to make that happen
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28018 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:12 pm to
What’s unnatural about carbon fuel?
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6635 posts
Posted on 5/26/21 at 9:17 pm to
Why not the current nuclear platform?

Why not oil if we can recapture the carbon which XOM is touting they now have the technology to do?

We are 30 yrs at best away from decreasing current oil utilization unless half the world decides to off themselves for the greater good or technology rapidly advances.

I have plenty of concerns with solar being the future. The heat we are removing from the earth necessary to provide our power cant be inconsequential
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