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re: what is considered middle and upper class in louisiana?

Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:22 pm to
Stop selecting little passages of my entire post you frick nut. Answer the whole post.

It's income at the time of inheritance. But if you inherited money when you're 5. And someone says, "What's your income?"

What do you say?
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:23 pm to
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Also...Chicken is trying to tell us that people who make 20 times the median income in LA are still middle class



lets divide this into 2 threads and it will die.
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:23 pm to
In other words, you cannot answer rmcc's original question. Thanks.
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:24 pm to
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Lower, middle, and upper are all social classes. You are just making shite up.


uncle sam dont give a shite if you are a member of club med. he just wants to know how much money you bring in..
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:26 pm to
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Your income since you've been born. $0.

Are you still living in a matter that's considered upper class? You go to the nicest parties. You drive the nicest car. You went to the best school in NY.

What's your income?



what tax bracket are you in?
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:27 pm to
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In other words, you cannot answer rmcc's original question. Thanks.


No

But neither could you

What I could do however is show that you were vastly uninformed on the matter and don't have a concept of how wealth is distributed in this country.

I've also shown that you lack basic reasoning skills. How did you come up with this gem?

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Can we agree, for this argument that the top 1% in LA make over $500,000?


Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:27 pm to
that's not what your question asked then. You should have asked, "what's the highest income tax bracket?"
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:29 pm to
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But if you want to say what is upper class, you would say someone who makes about X amount of dollars annually and that will give you a good estimation.


Oh so now we're estimating. Assuming, implying. Hmmmm...

I'm glad definitions in Powerman land are based off of these vagaries.
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:30 pm to
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No

But neither could you
I disagree...you even conceded that I was right in terms of social class. At least I tried to answer one of the questions...the Jeopardy music is still playing and waiting for you to answer the one on economic class...what is the salary cutoff for upper class in LA? Is it $350,000?
This post was edited on 3/30/07 at 4:31 pm
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:32 pm to
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And no it was not "clear". Because the very definition of upper class i" refers to the group of people at the top of a social hierarchy."


i dont give a shite about social class. i wasn't asking about that. how that is not clear to you is beyond me.

social class and economic class are 2 completely different things.


Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:33 pm to
There is no "cutoff"

If you're in the ballpark then you're upper class

350 would be a safe bet for LA since it would qualify you as a top 1%er nationwide. I would imagine it's a bit lower in LA because of the economy here

You're grilling me because I'm not going to google all day until I find out stats on income distribution in LA?

If you're that interested do the research yourself. But I'll bet you any sum of money you want that it's less than 700K
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:34 pm to
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that's not what your question asked then. You should have asked, "what's the highest income tax bracket?"


what about that graphic that powerman posted confuses you?
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:35 pm to
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how that is not clear to you is beyond me.


because inherent in the term "Upper Class" is social. Social exists within the very definition of the term.

So when you use the term "upper class" while meaning economic, you're MISUSING THE TERM.

What part of that is hard to understand?
This post was edited on 3/30/07 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:35 pm to
He's just stubborn

frick it

He'd rather talk about inheritance which is clearly not the subject in question when you started the thread
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:36 pm to
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There is no "cutoff"

If you're in the ballpark then you're upper class
So there is no cutoff, but there is a ballpark...which is what? Does it go down to $200k? Or 150k? What about $100k? Are those ballpark?

Are you capable of answering the original question posed?
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:39 pm to
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He'd rather talk about inheritance which is clearly not the subject in question when you started the thread


you're an idiot. I used inheritance or money to show you that "annual income" figures in no way can be a definitive factor of class.

That graph depicts annual income.

Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:39 pm to
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you're an idiot. I used inheritance or money to show you that "annual income" figures in no way can be a definitive factor of class.


Of course it's a definitive factor

It's just not the only factor
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:40 pm to
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because inherent in the term "Upper Class" is social. Social is exists within the very definition of the term.

So when you use the term "upper class" while meaning economic, you're MISUSING THE TERM.

What part of that is hard to understand?


you've got to be shitting me? all of this because i used a wrong term? the intent of my question was clear. next time, just correct my mis-use of terminology and answer the question.

i wasn't looking for a f'ing lecture.



Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:41 pm to
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Of course it's a definitive factor

It's just not the only factor


nope. It's not the conclusive factor. And I've proven it over and over again. But you try to play semantics to ignore it.

We went through that.

And factor by definition has more than one.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/30/07 at 4:41 pm to
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you've got to be shitting me? all of this because i used a wrong term? the intent of my question was clear. next time, just correct my mis-use of terminology and answer the question.

i wasn't looking for a f'ing lecture.



No shite

Anyone who reads the question clearly knows what you mean without getting into all of this social class nonsense
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