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re: Want to be 401K millionaire. Is it doable at this point?
Posted on 5/24/19 at 5:36 am to tigers1956
Posted on 5/24/19 at 5:36 am to tigers1956
1st 8 years of my target date fund have had a return of over 9%, how is that remotely anything like a saving account?
Posted on 5/24/19 at 7:38 am to jimbeam
Dave Ramsey recommends the same asset allocation for everyone which is mind boggling. I believe it is 25%large cap growth & income 25% large cap growth 25% aggressive growth and 25%international. That is 100% stocks and 0 bonds. Then he goes on to say don’t worry about paying front-end sales loads, just focus on investing the dollars. Dave isn’t even securities licensed. I like his message on debt, but his one size fits all investment advice is bad
Posted on 5/24/19 at 2:48 pm to 3morereps
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25%large cap growth & income 25% large cap growth 25% aggressive growth and 25%international.
How would you alter it? I don’t think it’s bad for someone that’s 20 plus years from retirement age.
Posted on 5/24/19 at 2:52 pm to Paul Allen
Unless i'm mistaken, I think his point is that it is pretty awful advice for someone to say that everyone no matter what should be invested in this portfolio mix, regardless of age, risk tolerance, etc. I'd also rarely expect any adviser to recommend a 100% stock portfolio as their "standard" portfolio.
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:02 pm to Paul Allen
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How would you alter it? I don’t think it’s bad for someone that’s 20 plus years from retirement age.
25% aggressive growth and 25% international is going to make people shite their pants when we have a bad year
25% international is dumb in general
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:13 pm to Crackerj
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BTW, no match since 2012 for managers.
I would do something outside of the employer plan, then. Unless the costs are insanely low, and even then.
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With catchup contributions can I make it?
At 50, you can start to make an additional $5k per year, but that will only add about $40k to tax-preferential contributions to your target date of age 58.
Is there a pension? Because, let's assume you can get to $500k by 58 - that just isn't enough, IMHO. Hell, a million might not be enough, but with a pension, there is at least leverage.
Otherwise, you're going to be working at least until your 60s and early SS eligibility, again, IMHO.
This post was edited on 5/25/19 at 12:16 am
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:15 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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25% international is dumb in general
Yeah, I'm ~20% in international and that's probably too much. 10 to 15 is probably more reasonable and I look to adjust that later this year. I'm going to split that extra 5 to 10 into either REIT or maybe extra large cap.
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:16 pm to Crackerj
You don’t only have to invest in tax deferred accounts. Opening standard brokerage account will give you tax control in the future, as well as allow you to invest more than the limits on retirement plans
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:17 pm to Ace Midnight
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Yeah, I'm ~20% in international and that's probably too much. 10 to 15 is probably more reasonable and I look to adjust that later this year. I'm going to split that extra 5 to 10 into either REIT or maybe extra large cap.
For the once in a decade time that internationals outperform domestic, I’m not willing to give up my domestic #gainz
I do hold international as a hedge more than anything
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:18 pm to 3morereps
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That is 100% stocks and 0 bonds.
Frankly, that isn't crazy for anyone under 55. Probably under 60.
The mix should probably be adjusted for individual risk tolerance, but until inflation (and yield on bonds and cash equivalents) goes up, the only real money to be made is in equities, again IMHO.
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Dave isn’t even securities licensed.
Neither are many super wealthy folks. I agree that one size doesn't fit all, necessarily, but the 100% stocks for younger folks outside their 5- to 7-year window of retirement isn't crazy. It's the opposite of crazy.
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:55 pm to jimbeam
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So i guess my target date with 90% stocks is like a bank account huh?
Which one are you in if you don't mind me asking?
Posted on 5/24/19 at 5:19 pm to Paul Allen
He recommends a 100% equity portfolio whether one is 3 or 30 years from retirement. My point is no two situations are identical and to have granny, with limited resources in a 100% equity portfolio because 12% is easy to get with that allocation is not wise
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 5/24/19 at 7:59 pm to Ace Midnight
Yes, there is a pension. One of the biggest reasons I’ve stayed at the job is because of it. Est. Lump sum is really good. Maxed ROTH for 5 years now as well so I’m on track to be in decent shape.
I have a dumb question though. Even though I rebalanced the mix I’m investing in 401K now, 90 something % is still in 2035 TD fund. Is it even possible to sell that and get more into potentially better funds? I’ve been in set it and forget it for so long now with okay results.
I have a dumb question though. Even though I rebalanced the mix I’m investing in 401K now, 90 something % is still in 2035 TD fund. Is it even possible to sell that and get more into potentially better funds? I’ve been in set it and forget it for so long now with okay results.
Posted on 5/25/19 at 12:14 am to Crackerj
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I have a dumb question though.
Actually not dumb.
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Even though I rebalanced the mix I’m investing in 401K now, 90 something % is still in 2035 TD fund.
Yeah, you want to do interfund transfers. Changing your contribution numbers just redirects new money every payday. Look for options to rebalance across the funds and you should be able to do that. You might not be able to make unlimited ones with no penalty or fees, but a quarterly rebalancing should be possible (no promises, though, your situation may be different).
Use the help desk if necessary (I'm assuming you manage your portfolio through a web portal).
Posted on 5/25/19 at 7:01 am to GoCrazyAuburn
dave is a clown and caters to the dumb and stupid.
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