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re: Vacation home as an investment

Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:40 pm to
Posted by Bdiddy
Member since Jul 2021
314 posts
Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:40 pm to
The party might be about to end. Last year was the largest increase, 20% in the history of the Housing Price Index. I live in the panhandle of FL, and our area has experienced a much larger increase. I would not buy as an investment at this point, but if you love traveling there, and hope to keep it for years, I would buy it for lifestyle considerations and not the best use of money.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3466 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 2:23 am to
Blue Ridge , Ga so no skiing here but great place anyway. I’d love to get a ski home, but I think I might sit out for a while since I’m so busy
Posted by deltafarmer
Member since Dec 2019
918 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 5:01 am to
Taos and Angel Fire look like undervalued mountain/ski areas.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2959 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 9:27 am to
Gatlinburg has a better ROI than the beach according to a client.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23464 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 1:53 pm to
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Gatlinburg has a better ROI than the beach according to a client.


I haven't looked but I wouldn't doubt that due to prices on the beach being crazy right now, but Gatlinburg isn't a soft market either.

The beach really isn't a "seasonal" market anymore along the gulf coast, its pretty much March 1 to Oct 31 with the winter holidays.

The biggest mistake people make is buying a vacation rental to use during peak season. You'll never justify the investment that way. Need to use it during the off times and shoulder seasons.
Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
2469 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 2:08 pm to
You are too late. Prices on these properties have skyrocketed to the point where I am not sure how people are covering the mortgage off STR income. Also I’ve seen recently very inexperienced people buy $1 million properties with no plan (self manage vs Management company). These people are going to get crushed if the market turns south or there is a slowdown with STR income.


Also the down payment is 25% and interest rates are 100 basis points higher then your home.
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 2:10 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/10/22 at 4:07 pm to
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These people are going to get crushed if the market turns south or there is a slowdown with STR income.


There will be another recession sooner or later, and a 50% decline in vacation property value has not been unheard of in the past.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23464 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 10:47 am to
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There will be another recession sooner or later, and a 50% decline in vacation property value has not been unheard of in the past.


There’s definitely some markets they seem crazy, but real estate in general is crazy right now in many standard residential areas. A market correction is definitely likely but that could be said about many industries right now. I’m not convinced it will actually happen at this point, and I’m looking at real estate hoping it does!
Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
4821 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:36 am to
Unless you fully understand investing and the cost of money, only go into physical properties to diversify the investments of your accumulated wealth.

In other words, dont buy rental property unless you can pay cash
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23464 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:57 am to
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In other words, dont buy rental property unless you can pay cash


This isn’t true. You just need to have plenty of cash or liquid assets for reserves if they are needed. It’s a bad idea to buy a 2nd home with 25% down and no other cash, without a doubt. But doing something like 40-50% down with the rest invested but liquid, is perfectly fine.

There’s a risk in everything. If you pay 100% cash and the market drops 50% you lose 50% of your money. That’s a risk also.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9586 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 2:24 pm to
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If you really want to consider a vacation rental, you should look at lesser known places.


Funny you say that.

One of my bankers tells me Ellijay, GA is the next boom. He's telling me to pass on the Smokies and go to Ellijay.

I had never even heard of it before he mentioned that to me.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3466 posts
Posted on 2/14/22 at 11:05 pm to
Ellijay has already been blowing up for a year
This post was edited on 2/15/22 at 10:12 am
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