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re: US Debt Default
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:56 pm to meansonny
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:56 pm to meansonny
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But no state does this.
No county does this.
No city does this.
Is this satire?
Please.. please tell me this is satire and you're making a reference to municipal bonds/non-sovereign government bonds.
Because states and municipalities and regions absolutely do this all the time.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 5/22/23 at 7:13 pm to CAPEX
As far as I know, California is the only state that did not propose a balanced budget for 2023.
And even they have made multiple modifications to the current budget already in an attempt to improve the situation.
I'm not referencing unfunded future pensions.
That is an obvious concern and obvious manipulation of budgets.
And even they have made multiple modifications to the current budget already in an attempt to improve the situation.
I'm not referencing unfunded future pensions.
That is an obvious concern and obvious manipulation of budgets.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:53 pm to CAPEX
So if they do default, would it raise CD rates like it would raise borrowing rates? I assume it would be a wash due to inflation though.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 7:05 am to AUlock54
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So if they do default, would it raise CD rates like it would raise borrowing rates? I assume it would be a wash due to inflation though.
It should, yes. The federal government defaulting would lessen the value of US debt thus requiring interest rates to increase in order to keep investors attracted.
Realistically, the federal government doesn't just get money on April 15, there are always tax receipts coming in so there should always be enough money to service the debt (especially if spending is brought down). Remember, this default date is being promoted by Janet "transitory inflation" Yellen.
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 7:07 am
Posted on 5/24/23 at 7:15 am to Aubie Spr96
I don’t understand why there is zero expectation for Biden or the senate to compromise.
Spending has to be reigned in. We spend way too much. No hike in debt ceiling should happen without doing something to reduce spending in a meaningful way.
Spending has to be reigned in. We spend way too much. No hike in debt ceiling should happen without doing something to reduce spending in a meaningful way.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 7:17 am to dewster
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don’t understand why there is zero expectation for Biden or the senate to compromise.
Because there is zero leverage to compromise.
Spending can get reigned in. But haggling over the debt ceiling isn't the carrot that anyone thinks it is.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 7:24 am to Bard
Actually the last time we were in this situation in 2011 when the S&P downgraded US Debt, yields dropped.
Posted on 5/24/23 at 10:04 am to Aubie Spr96
quote:If a default increases our debt cost-of-carry, it will be very bad.
Can anyone explain why defaulting would be bad?
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