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re: US and EU agree on trade deal

Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:07 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:07 am to
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Just answer the question - how am I wrong?


Claiming all products from europe will cost you personallly 15% more is just for starters

You arent the brigjtest
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
570 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:09 am to
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Claiming all products from europe will cost you personallly 15% more is just for starters

You arent the brigjtest


I said 15% more if producers pass along the increased costs. Also, it is just not the EU - it’s almost all imported goods.

Also - you can’t even spell “brightest” correctly so interpret that how you will
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 10:11 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93895 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:11 am to
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said 15% more if producers pass along the increased costs



You dont buy anything from Europe and it wont be passed along

Everyone with a brain knows that. That should help you out
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
570 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:15 am to
I buy a lot French wine and British spirits for starters
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93895 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:25 am to
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I buy a lot French wine and British spirits for starters



i hope you pay 15% more then
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:29 am to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31732 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 12:42 pm to
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Because imposing the tariffs and then delaying to negotiate showed them he was serious, and th panic it caused them probably led to us getting a more favorable deal.

If he had only threatened tariffs they likely would have tested his threat anyways to see if he would actually do it

"Liberation Day" was on April 2. If announcing and then immediately pausing was an effective tactic, why did he need to do it multiple times? Wouldn't needing to do it more than once heavily indicate that it wasn't effective at getting people to take the threat seriously, and potentially might have been counterproductive?
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 12:51 pm to
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wasn't effective at getting people to take the threat seriously


I'd argue that people now saying "only 15%" proves it was very effective. Before April,15% would have had people sky screaming more than usual, but throw out 25-30% over the last few months and 15% feels like a win
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 12:58 pm to
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I'd argue that people now saying "only 15%" proves it was very effective. Before April,15% would have had people sky screaming more than usual, but throw out 25-30% over the last few months and 15% feels like a win

But the same thing could have been accomplished without all the absurd back and forth. To go back to my previous formulation:

"To remedy a history of unfair trade treatment, the United States will impose a tariff of 30% on all foreign goods entering this country beginning in 90 days. In the interim, I would encourage our international friends to contact my administration if they are interested in negotiating an agreement to be executed before the 90 days are up. Thank you for your attention to this matter."

How is that less effective than throwing out random numbers and pausing them within 48 hours multiple times?

Because as always, we're a sovereign nation state. These aren't business negotiations. We don't need anyone to agree to anything. We can impose whatever tariffs we want, on whoever we want, whenever we want. Schizophrenic brinkmanship makes practically zero sense within that context.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93895 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:28 pm to
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But the same thing could have been accomplished without all the absurd back and forth. To go back to my previous formulation:


So you are just complaining to complain

Shocking really
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31732 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:42 pm to
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So you are just complaining to complain

Shocking really

You say the silliest shite

Trumpists claim that the schizophrenic brinkmanship was effective, and therefore all the damage it did to businesses was worth it. I'm saying the schizophrenic brinkmanship wasn't effective, and in fact was counterproductive, and therefore all the damage it did to business was not worth it.

Come on, even you can keep up with that
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93895 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:07 pm to
"Why didnt he do it the way I wanted him to do it!!!"


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Trumpists claim that the schizophrenic brinkmanship was effective, and therefore all the damage it did to businesses was worth it


It clearly worked. What damage? You TDS clowns and that female energy/drama is classic. You have an idiot in here crying about tariffs Wins cause his french wine will increase 10 dollars
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31732 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:29 pm to
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It clearly worked. What damage?

I sometimes forget that you're this level of clown
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93895 posts
Posted on 7/29/25 at 2:31 pm to
Yeah i figured you wouldnt be able to answer that
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