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UPDATED: Found a lender to buy a house with a 619 score

Posted on 4/8/12 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Shalimar Sid
Member since Feb 2005
9381 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 8:42 pm
My brother is looking, does he have a chance? His income is 5100 a month with no debt other than living bills.

UPDATE:

He found a lender and they pre-approved him for 160,000 at 4.75 and zero down due to VA (he is a veteran). They quoted his payment with taxes and ins at 999.00 a month. He was happy with the results but I think the 4.75 may be a little much.
This post was edited on 4/12/12 at 11:57 am
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 8:55 pm to
How much house and what kind of down payment would he have?

I have no idea if there is an absolute cutoff score or anything but I think those factors could play an important role if there isn't one.

Fwiw, I think it's the fico score anyway.
Posted by Shalimar Sid
Member since Feb 2005
9381 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 8:58 pm to
thanks, the price of the house he's looking at is 160,000ish and he has probably 5000 to put down.
Posted by MikeDaTiger23
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2009
757 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 9:21 pm to
Really needs to have 20% down with that score.
Posted by Shalimar Sid
Member since Feb 2005
9381 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 9:30 pm to
I dont see how he could come up with another 29000. I understand that a common bank or credit union will want this but what about private lenders that do not necessarily have to answer to shareholders? Could this be a possibility?
Posted by Franktowntiger7
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2010
2727 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 9:34 pm to
Absolutely not, 620 minimum. It doesn't take much or long though to get a 600 to a 620.
Posted by Shalimar Sid
Member since Feb 2005
9381 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

Absolutely not, 620 minimum. It doesn't take much or long though to get a 600 to a 620.


I think his score has been climbing pretty good. I think he said it has gone from 525 to 602 in just 4 months. So he will probably have to keep going. The thing he has a problem with is the hard inquiries versus the soft inquiries. A hard inq will drop your score 9 points if over 5. That sucks.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

The thing he has a problem with is the hard inquiries versus the soft inquiries. A hard inq will drop your score 9 points if over 5. That sucks.


When he shops for credit, he should do so within a short amount of time. The credit agencies treat multiple inquiries of the same type (mortgage applications for example) as one inquiry.

As long as he's not sporadically and frequently applying for credit, he should be OK and get to 620 in no time. Based on what I've read, this is pretty much the bottom for most lenders. No anecdotal or hard evidence for this though.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 4/9/12 at 7:22 am to
If your debt to income ratio is low you can get a loan at 600.

Tell your bro to talk to a banker.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 4/9/12 at 7:36 am to
No offense intended but having a 525 four months ago has nothing to do with inquiries.

He is going to need a substantial downpayment to overcome his credit score. Even when his score rises he is going to need more than 3% down for a conventional loan. If he can qualify for an FHA loan the 3% down is about right. If he is a veteran he can get away with less down. There may be other low downpayment options in Louisiana that I'm not aware of (I live in Virginia) such as a rural housing program.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 4/9/12 at 7:50 am to
If his personal bank won't do it, then most likely no one else will either.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:03 pm to
your brother needs to email me. i have a FHA program that requires a min 580 score and 3.5% down and the rate is actually pretty good at 4.25% this morning.

hawkeye70739@gmail.com
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 12:04 pm
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:07 pm to
What do you need minimum for a VA loan?
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 4/9/12 at 12:09 pm to
VA is a 620 min
Posted by Vrai
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
4034 posts
Posted on 4/9/12 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

FHA program that requires a min 580 score and 3.5% down and the rate is actually pretty good at 4.25% this morning.


That's a damn shame.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 4/9/12 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

FHA program


quote:



That's a damn shame.


FHA are fairly well underwritten. Very, very strenuous in comparison to a brokered loan through an outfit that will more than likely sell the paper inside of 12 months from the time of first payment receipt.

He'll get stipped to hell & back on his response from their Underwriting, but if his affairs are in order, & his originator knows how to write letters of explanation like nobody's business, & he can produce a few alternative trade lines, he should be fine.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 4/9/12 at 2:46 pm to
the biggest thing with our FHA program for under 640 is DTI . has to be under 43% . i dont do a large number of them, but the UW does take a hard look at it so you are correct you better have the file in order.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 4/10/12 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

hawkeye007


A little off topic, but have you heard of any products out there for borrows who recently did short sales and want to buy another home before the FHA's "3 years after short sale" guidelines?

Maybe with a manual underwrite and higher rate?
Posted by Shalimar Sid
Member since Feb 2005
9381 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 6:52 am to
UPDATE:

He found a lender and they pre-approved him for 160,000 at 4.75 and zero down due to VA (he is a veteran). They quoted his payment with taxes and ins at 999.00 a month. He was happy with the results but I think the 4.75 may be a little much.

Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28264 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 6:56 am to
quote:

4.75 may be a little much.


He's got bad credit. That's still historically low.
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