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Posted on 1/17/12 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by Tiger_Man
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 3:26 pm to
tigerpawl...Thanks for that link. Anderson 17H-1 is near our property. Glad to hear things are going well there. They are permitted for a second well on that site.
Posted by Tiger_Man
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 3:34 pm to
I brought this over from a blog regarding Weyerhaeuser 73H, which is located near the state line in St Helena Parish and near Anderson 17H-1. Treat as a rumor.
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Word is that Encana's well had a flow of 1,000+ bd (not sure if this is day1, calculated instantaneous flow, or some other measure). They are also saying that they will be moving 6 rigs to the play by March. That is an enourmous commitment if it holds up to be true.
Posted by TchoupitoulasTiger
NOLA
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 8:59 pm to
The formation is certainly there. The challenges are rig availability and drill pipe availability. The steelmills are running at max capacity and still have a 6-9 month backlog. Most of the drill pipe and rigs are in North Dakota & Pennsylvania. Also the industry is in the "Great Crewchange"- 30-40% of the workforce, I can't see it taking off like the stuff in Shreveport, Dallas, ND, or Pennsylvania. Ohio's Utica is next in line.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:06 pm to
We have a ton of clients that are effectively suppliers to the NOV's, Halliburton's, and Schlumberger's of the world. Probably worked on 5 or 6 of them in the last 2 months, every single one is blowing up and desperately trying to add capacity as quickly as possible (although many without levering).
Posted by gonads&strife
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:31 pm to
That encana well is the first good data point and is very suspect. You can't trust IPs, especially from public cos. Jury still way out on the tms.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/18/12 at 12:10 am to
I was listening to an earnings call for a company I'm researching and one of the guys (CEO COO etc) mentioned that companies use different chokes and thus have different amounts of pressure. An analyst was basically asking him if he thought the IP rate for a particular well would be comparable to another public co well drilled in the vicinity and he effectively said "they're making it look better than it might be, we're just trying to be conservative."
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4480 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 7:39 am to
The issue with most of the drilling in TMS right now is that it has not yet become economical yet. It is still new, and many companies are refining their techniques to handle TMS. This is exactly how things started in Haynesville few years ago, so as long as oil prices stay at $100.00 bbl, you will continue to see companies look for liquids in TMS and try to make it economical.
Posted by tigerpawl
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/18/12 at 1:36 pm to
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The issue with most of the drilling in TMS right now is that it has not yet become economical yet.
Gettin' there: "Encana has just finished drilling the Anderson 17H-1 in Amite County, Mississippi. The well, originally permitted for 19,117' with a TVD of 12,220', reached a total measured depth of 19,547'. Drilling of the well only took 39 days which represents a significant increase in drill time and cost reduction." LINK
Posted by Tiger_Man
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
191 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 5:50 pm to
I rode by the Anderson site today. Anderson 17H-1 has been drilled and 18H-1 already has a rig on the pad. They should be drilling soon.
Posted by Beerinthepocket
Dallas
Member since May 2011
856 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 6:30 pm to
They won't be fracking the wells until both are drilled though, so there's a bit of a wait before we see how they do.
Posted by Tiger_Man
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
191 posts
Posted on 1/19/12 at 12:12 am to
So with that scenario, possibly mid to late March before flow testing results are finished ??? Don't know, just asking........

These two Encana wells should give a good indication on how things will play out in the high resistivity area. I realize it's just a start, but if the results are good, hopefully thing will keep moving forward.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8274 posts
Posted on 1/19/12 at 9:29 am to
quote:

These two Encana wells should give a good indication on how things will play out in the high resistivity area. I realize it's just a start, but if the results are good, hopefully thing will keep moving forward.


People get stuck on IP rates, but those can be heavily skewed one way or the other by the operator depending on what information is reported. The real proof on how economic this play is will be in the recoveries in the first 1-2 years of production. Until this information becomes available there is no way to know what the decline curves will look like.
Posted by Kajungee
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/19/12 at 2:56 pm to
Sorry for hi-jacking this tread but it sounds like some of you in the industry might know..

Hilcorp's buy out of BP's producing Tuscaloosa Trend wells.. Is this good news for royalty owners ?
Posted by Tiger_Man
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
191 posts
Posted on 1/20/12 at 9:27 am to
I'm not in the business of drilling, but I've read good things about Hilscorp. They bought BP's interest in Pointe Coupee & West Feliciana. I also read where they sold $3.5 billion of assets in Eagle Ford to Marathon.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8274 posts
Posted on 1/20/12 at 9:45 am to
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Hilcorp's buy out of BP's producing Tuscaloosa Trend wells.. Is this good news for royalty owners ?


The deep Tuscaloosa trend sold by BP is heavily drilled and save for a few possible infill wells I doubt there is too much life left in the play. Also, see the recent Henry Hub prices. I doubt many people are going to be pouring money into deep gas wells for sub $2.50 gas. Hilcorp might add some additional infill wells down the road, but I doubt it happens in this price environment especially since the acreage is hbp.
Posted by Tiger_Man
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
191 posts
Posted on 1/27/12 at 1:33 am to
I have been following a thread on GoHaynesville and there have suspect members trying to throw cold water on TMS activity just as here on this thread. A gentleman by the name of John Parker has gotten in on the conversation. I have pasted Mr Parker's last post and I believe you landowners will be enlightened by what he has to say!
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Mr. Steve: "what rumored sudden change in drilling plans" does Encana have?
I had a personal conversation with a good friend of mine who is the Chief Landman of a leasing crew that has been up in South West Arkansas for 2 years in the Dense Brown working for SW and that effort is now finished. Per our conversation, he told me Encana had been begging him very hard this week to come on down to Wilkinson and Amite Counties as they want to lease "everything" that is remaining unleased in these counties. (He is not going to because he got a better gig, about 45 miles from his house and after 2 years a long way from home you can understand.)
He is a straight up guy and his conversation with me does not sound to me like there is any problem at all.
What that clearly tells me is "that the sudden change in the drilling plan" must be many more drilling rigs ramping up drilling in these areas. Encana already has in excess of 250,000 acres which is a ton of drilling pads that will keep them busy for many years. Why on earth would they want more ("everything left") unless they are really excited on the results they are seeing thus far.
Furthemore, just look at all of the many new drilling permits Encana has obtained just recently, combined with their last weeks 3 large "forced intergration" petitions the Mississippi O & G Board granted to them. These easily confirmed actions combined with my "hearsay" conversation with a know trusted friend who has been a landman for over 16 years, does not indicate to me their is any problem whatsoever, if fact, just the opposite.
John

Also, another one of Mr Parker's post:

[i]Ladies and Gentlemen:
As Paul Harvey used to say "Now heres the rest of the story" The attached LA DNR Operators Production Report shows that Encana reported 6,268 Barrels of oil produced in November for the Weyerhauser 73 H. Assuming the completion was complete at 1.00 AM in the morning it would be 9 days of production which equates to 696 Barrels Of Oil Per Day or if it was completed late in the evening on the 22nd it would be 8 days of production which would be 784 Barrels Of Oil Per Day.
Please keep in mind that during these first days of production, the oil has to compete with the flowback water to exit the choke. Decembers production numbers should be much higher, assuming Encana doesn't choke back or shut the well down in an effort to suppress higher Lease Bonus and and better Royalty/Lease Terms.
The GoHaynesville site and members are doing an excellent job and informing all involved with critical information regarding these matters. Keep up the Great Work.
Thanks and Good Luck to All
John

GoHaynesville / Tuscaloosa Marine Shale
This post was edited on 1/27/12 at 1:56 am
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 1/27/12 at 4:25 am to
It looks like the oil companys lost intrest in lower Pointe Coupee all together now.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8274 posts
Posted on 1/27/12 at 8:34 am to
quote:

I have been following a thread on GoHaynesville and there have suspect members trying to throw cold water on TMS activity just as here on this thread. A gentleman by the name of John Parker has gotten in on the conversation. I have pasted Mr Parker's last post and I believe you landowners will be enlightened by what he has to say!


That site can be downright comical at times. With that said the first few days of production data from the Encana well seems to be encouraging, but we will have to watch and see how the decline looks after a few months production. I don't think anyone here is "throwing cold water" on the play, but instead noting that it's still very early and outright economic success is not yet a reality. This play looks infinitely better than the Brown Dense play in South Arkansas right now, which might be the biggest lease play I've ever seen with zero wells producing anything of note form the formation.
This post was edited on 1/27/12 at 8:38 am
Posted by Beerinthepocket
Dallas
Member since May 2011
856 posts
Posted on 1/27/12 at 12:31 pm to
Encana is apparently not impressed with how the first wells have done and have stopped any new drilling until the two anderson wells are completed, producing, and evaluated.

I would assume this is because of cash flow issues stemming from the extremely low price of natural gas which Encana earns most of its revenue from.
Posted by Tiger_Man
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
191 posts
Posted on 1/28/12 at 3:01 pm to
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Encana's Weyerhaeuser 73H-1, located in St Helena, is confirmed with a flow rate of 786 bopd, while this is not excellent, it is good. This well has a good chance of improving after the frac water is removed and the oil doesn't have to compete with the water. I can not see how Encana is not encouraged, by this IP, this early in the exploration phase. This is the first well in TMS that they have drilled & completed from start to finish.

Leasing in the area is still consistent and there is a push on leases. Encana may change their focus, but it doesn't appear that they are not impressed. I'm sure that they had hoped for better numbers, such as 1000 bopd, but this well still has that potential.
They were a little more ambitious with Anderson 17H-1, so yes, it will tell them a lot when 17 & 18 are completed.
Until those results are available, it's wait and see, so to speak.

IMO, Encana should have funds available to continue exploration, despite the low price of NG. When they got involved in this venture, surely they weren't depending on NG prices to keep the ball rolling. A solid company Encana, most definitively took a look at this project from all possible angles. I think they are here to put forward their best effort. I have heard many times that it will take 25 to 30 wells to get a grasp on the overall picture of TMS. They are not even close to that and just getting started!! There are no dry holes so far in this play, compared to other plays, so I believe they may just adjust their game plan a little. Possibly just slow the pace in order to manage their funds a little better, so they can continue exploration. If they get a few wells with good IP's, that could help them with this project in the long run.
Hopefully they will drill some developmental wells as well.

Light Sweet Crude!! Good stuff!!! I am confident, they will work the kinks out. It's there & they want it. It's just going to take time before they can turn the corner.
This post was edited on 1/28/12 at 3:09 pm
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