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re: The White House supports studying a financial transaction tax (0.1% tax on stocks)

Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:02 am to
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16417 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:02 am to
Pardon my ignorance, but
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Your 401ks, ETFs, IRAs and the huge funds that hold pensions, etc. would have to pay a tax each time they reposition

Does this mean you pay a tax when the funds within a specific mutual fund repositions, or if you reposition between different mutual funds? And, if it's when they reposition the funds within the mutual fund, I suppose you'd only be taxed on the portion affected by the stocks that are traded (or other instruments within the fund).
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12618 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:30 am to
Why not just raise rates on the taxes we already have?

I keep hearing these ludicrous proposals like this and unearned capital gains that they veil under “It’s only 0.1%”

If it can raise $777B, it’s a $777B tax.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
36761 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Does this mean you pay a tax when the funds within a specific mutual fund repositions, or if you reposition between different mutual funds? And, if it's when they reposition the funds within the mutual fund, I suppose you'd only be taxed on the portion affected by the stocks that are traded (or other instruments within the fund).


I don't think that's known yet but should be part of what they study on this.

funds would be taxed to rebalance but Im sure they'd just pass it on via raising the management fee %.

We'd be taxed directly to rebalance funds.

This probably dies in congress though as it's generally considered a good thing to encourage retirement savings and this is just one more reason to not enter the market or trade stocks which reduces liquidity and valuations most likely
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
4622 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 12:06 pm to
Do you wanna kill the market? Cuz that is how you kill the market
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 12:11 pm to
If you ever see the words "study" or "commission" coming from a government body, just know that these are only excuses for redistributing your tax dollars to the politically connected.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19535 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 12:21 pm to
"Progressives" have a lot of talent at stifling the market and strangling confidence in the economy.

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37109 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:40 pm to
I don't support this tax.

But the idea that 10 basis points in, and 10 basis points out, is going to cause the financial markets to spin into a disaster, is just silly.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19535 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:32 pm to
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indexing capital gains to inflation.


Inflation and capital gains is a government racket.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15639 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 6:17 pm to
So the common American gets shut out of Wall Street and the rats get back to controlling the game.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 8:16 pm to
This will crash and burn. If you ever wanted to know who owns congress, you’ll find out when this legislation shows up DOA.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8382 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:00 pm to
I am having serious moral crossroads with savings these days. Where do we put our money, money markets are shot. Savers have, and are continuing, to get screwed over by a government that cannot find the word budget.

I put my money to work for me, that I worked for, saved, and didn't blow...and now I've got to throw the US an additional 10th?

That adds up to a ton of money over a lifetime, a truck ton....and it won't stop at 0.1 either. This is where I ask all those 'conservatives' where did that balanced budget amendment go.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:06 pm to
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So the common American gets shut out of Wall Street and the rats get back to controlling the game.


Seems a boiling point may be in our future. For some, we are already there
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