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re: Student Loan consolidation

Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:09 pm to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:09 pm to
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How do you figure 17 yrs and they will forgive it? Are you a federal employee


All the fed loans based on income have forgiveness, it just works a little differently than PSLF.

PSLF is full forgiveness after 10 years working in "public service".

ICR/IBR/PAYE/REPAYE offer forgiveness after 25 or 20 years depending on which program you're in (choice is made for you by when you took loan out and some other factors in practice). However under these programs the forgiven amount is taxable as income. I suspect this will be revisited once the first people start hitting this in about 15 years.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 11:10 pm
Posted by lilsnappa
The Lu
Member since Mar 2006
1857 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:26 am to
I think everyone is missing the OP's question entirely.

Yall talking about refinancing, he/she just wants to see them as one number.

The simple answer is no, you cannot. Each of those loans are accruing interest differently, based on when you started that specific loan. It's possible that some of them may be at different interest rates as well.

What everyone is talking about is refinancing of the loans into one loan at one interest rate.

That or may not be in your best interest. There are plenty of resources out there (linked in this thread) that will help you figure things out.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12214 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 9:13 am to
I have 18 different loans from college. The lowest is about $600 and I think the highest is at $6000 or so. I use mint so it consolidates the total up for me.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 10:14 am to
If you want to see them all in one place, get an account at Mint.com for free and add them all there.

If you want them all to show up as one number on a credit report, you have to consolidate. I used SoFi and it was great.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15979 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 12:22 pm to
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All the fed loans based on income have forgiveness, it just works a little differently than PSLF.



But what happens when you have paying the miniumm based on income forgiveness but you get married or make money, does that mean suddenly you lose the 20 year forgiveness option?

Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40606 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 1:16 pm to
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But what happens when you have paying the miniumm based on income forgiveness but you get married or make money, does that mean suddenly you lose the 20 year forgiveness option?


No you don't lose the forgiveness option. When you first take out the loan, there is a 10 year repayment plan option. This acts as your cap monthly payment. At whatever point your income rises to the point that your repayment percentage of income reaches the 10 year repayment payment amount, that is the max you will pay until you finish 240/300 months of payments(20/25 years) . Any remaining balance will be forgiven. The forgiven amount is taxable as income.

Hence, this is actually a huge windfall for high income earners with high debt loads. They make smaller payments for 20/25 years, allowing money to free up for investment, homes, etc. When forgiveness comes, if they planned right by putting money aside, they use that to pay a fraction of the amount left owed with the top marginal rate being whatever it is at that time.

This forgiven amount that is taxable is also known as the "tax bomb." For lower income earners, there is no realistic expectation that debtors who haven't been able to pay their loan back over 20/25 are going to be able to pay the tax bomb at the end. I expect there will be political ramifications over this.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 1:24 pm
Posted by boutgrfanrx
Woodstock,GA
Member since Dec 2012
299 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:40 pm to
I've looked at this multiple times in the recent months. You can refinance or consilidate through the fed but keep in mind I believe you lose the forebearance or deferrment if currently as such. Point to keep mind if you consider this to be avilable in the future and you qualify (not sure what your degree is in), if you consilidate through a private source such as SOFI it won't be eligible for PSLF.

BTW the refinance rates from SOFI and others are typically are not that great and the flexibility of the federal lenders can be valuable at times and simple to deal with in my experience.
Posted by boutgrfanrx
Woodstock,GA
Member since Dec 2012
299 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:47 pm to
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No you don't lose the forgiveness option.


Do you lose the forgivenss option of any kind if you go through a private lender? (PSLF or the 10 year option) That is the way I've had it explained to me.
Posted by lilsnappa
The Lu
Member since Mar 2006
1857 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 6:23 pm to
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BTW the refinance rates from SOFI and others are typically are not that great


I disagree. I got 3.5% on a 5 year fixed.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10293 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 6:28 pm to
Doesn't 3.5% private loan about = to 5.5% federal loan when you take the tax deduction into account?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40606 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:08 pm to
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Do you lose the forgivenss option of any kind if you go through a private lender? (PSLF or the 10 year option) That is the way I've had it explained to me


Yes, you lose forgiveness option if you refinance with a private lender.

I don't know why anyone with a large loan balance would voluntarily leave PSLF if they qualify
Posted by boutgrfanrx
Woodstock,GA
Member since Dec 2012
299 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:20 am to
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disagree. I got 3.5% on a 5 year fixed


Oh yeah if your balance is low enough that you feasibly pay it off in 5 years ,then yes the rates are considerably different.
My balances are too high to consider a term that short. Hadn't really thought about the short term refinance since that is no where in my ballpark.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/18/17 at 8:25 am to
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Doesn't 3.5% private loan about = to 5.5% federal loan when you take the tax deduction into account?


You can still deduct student loan interest from private lenders.
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