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Posted on 4/16/20 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 3:14 pm
I have 301 shares in Exxon. Should I sell and reinvest in Amazon?
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 3:16 pm to
Sell low, buy high?


Hard to tell without knowing what the rest of your portfolio looks like.
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 3:24 pm to
Just Exxon now
Posted by SaintTiger80
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 3:42 pm to
I would not sell Exxon low just to get in on Amazon while it’s high.

That’s not to say Exxon couldn’t go lower or that Amazon couldn’t go higher.

I’m a petroleum engineer by degree and work in oil and gas. Demand for oil/gas is only going to go up in the future and the world is still largely dependent on it for the foreseeable future (20-100 years).

Meaning Exxon is going to become very profitable again. Just a question of when.

Good stock to have. I think you would regret locking in your losses by selling. But do what you think is best.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 3:45 pm to
Thanks Saint. Good advice! I’ll hang on too it. I knew when I bought last month it was for the long haul!
Posted by Dayman
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Demand for oil/gas is only going to go up in the future and the world is still largely dependent on it for the foreseeable future (20-100 years).


What is your logic behind this?
Posted by Boudinbaw
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

Demand for oil/gas is only going to go up in the future and the world is still largely dependent on it for the foreseeable future (20-100 years).

You're making this up, only thing driving the paltry 1% or so of demand growth is petrochemicals which should flatten in 10-15 years
Posted by arcalades
USA
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 7:11 pm to
maybe invest 33% in Amazon if there's a pullback in Amazon
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:18 pm to
I probably have a contrarian view on this on a Louisiana message board, but I will never invest in an oil and gas stock again. I will no doubt invest in derivative companies, like utilities, but nothing that is primarily an oil and gas company. I learned very early as a young financial analyst to stay away from industries with shrinking market opportunities. Even if the companies are otherwise producing great cash flow, once that Wall Street apparatus packs up and moves on to “what’s next,” those industries whose markets embody melting icebergs struggle to catch a bid. The ones that still generate substantial cash flows are better suited to private equity, where the value proposition is more quantitative and not as much of a popularity contest. Like it or not, the environmentalists are winning. More than half the world think the planet will never be the same in 12 years due to CO2 emissions. Funds with ESG mandates (which are becoming more and more common) are dropping fossil fuel-based companies from their investable universes like they are the second coming of the Black Plague. Why invest here, especially now, when there are other sectors that aren’t in secular decline (however slow)?
Posted by RedStickBR
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

I’m a petroleum engineer by degree and work in oil and gas. Demand for oil/gas is only going to go up in the future and the world is still largely dependent on it for the foreseeable future (20-100 years).


No offense, but those in the oil and gas industry in places like Houston are highly susceptible to missing the forest for the trees. In much of the developed world, supporting anything fossil fuel-related is as cool as cancer. That’s definitely not my view, but it’s one that has become shockingly widespread throughout places like Australia, Western Europe, East and West Coast America and, yes, even little enclaves like Austin and New Orleans.
Posted by SaintTiger80
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:16 pm to
Australia, China, and Indonesia are all heavily investing in LNG facilities as a primary source of energy. Oil is a lot more appealing for developing countries who don’t have the money to spend on “green energy” infrastructure. It’s a lot easier to run a deisel electric generator on site then build fields of solar panels.

I do think think demand for renewables will grow as well. But the need for energy overall will also grow as population continues to rise and third world countries begin to develop. Basically, a bigger pie for everyone.

Now, there might be some major breakthrough in battery technology that makes wind or solar much more feasible. But I can’t predict that. So for the time being oil and gas are still the world’s primary source of energy.
Posted by SaintTiger80
Member since Feb 2020
449 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

You're making this up, only thing driving the paltry 1% or so of demand growth is petrochemicals which should flatten in 10-15 years


Not going to pretend I’m an expert, but this is just my opinion from working in the industry and seeing what projects are being picked up around the world.
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 11:18 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

RedStickBR


Do you remember emailing me about 10 years ago? I might need a favor from you
Posted by SaintTiger80
Member since Feb 2020
449 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

No offense, but those in the oil and gas industry in places like Houston are highly susceptible to missing the forest for the trees. In much of the developed world, supporting anything fossil fuel-related is as cool as cancer. That’s definitely not my view, but it’s one that has become shockingly widespread throughout places like Australia, Western Europe, East and West Coast America and, yes, even little enclaves like Austin and New Orleans.


No offense taken. I’m not going to act like I’m an expert on global economics. I’m just a lowly engineer.

However, people’s opinions can be what they are and still be almost wholly dependent on oil and gas. Electric cars are produced in factories that run on oil. Almost all of the electricity we use comes from plants that burn coal, oil, or natural gas. Plastics are a derivative from petrochemical processes.

I do hope renewables becomes a viable source of energy. I just recognize that we have a relatively long way to go before they become our primary source.
This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 11:28 pm
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:30 pm to
I remember an email exchange but I don’t remember what about. Do you still have my email address?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18915 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:34 pm to
quote:

Do you still have my email address?


I’m unsure.
Please email bayoubengals1988@gmail.com and I’ll tell you what it’s about.

Feel free to shoot me down if you don’t have the time.

You’re an FA now?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37520 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

Demand for oil/gas is only going to go up in the future and the world is still largely dependent on it for the foreseeable future (20-100 years).



This is true whether people want to hear it or not. Go sit on the Houston ship channel and watch the ships come and go each day bringing in all kinds of goods and chemicals. New chemical plants being expanded on and built each year.

There is no current replacement for the thousands of products that come from oil. Prices will pick back up as they always have and oil will still be here
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18915 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

There is no current replacement for the thousands of products that come from oil. Prices will pick back up as they always have and oil will still be here


We literally have more than we know what to do with. Even if it got back to $30 and stayed there, is that enough?
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:10 am to
I just sent you a note.
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