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Stay or leave
Posted on 5/6/11 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 5/6/11 at 2:52 pm
Cliffs: Should I change to a possibly better job with more modern company or stay with current job and wait on promotion to keep credibility with this company?
Not really happy with my job now (3 years in, first job out of college) so I've been interviewing at some other places. Going for a second interview at a company that seems to be doing really well. They lead their market and are reinvesting a lot of money into the business. My current company is a market leader, but is more driven to reduce current costs than invest money for future payback.
My current HRM has told me that they have plans to move me into the position I want soon, but has been telling me this for several months now without any action. I'm not sure what they pay is with the new job or what the promotion offer is. The biggest thing that I'm unsure about is losing the reputation that I have built with this current company.
What would you suggest?
Not really happy with my job now (3 years in, first job out of college) so I've been interviewing at some other places. Going for a second interview at a company that seems to be doing really well. They lead their market and are reinvesting a lot of money into the business. My current company is a market leader, but is more driven to reduce current costs than invest money for future payback.
My current HRM has told me that they have plans to move me into the position I want soon, but has been telling me this for several months now without any action. I'm not sure what they pay is with the new job or what the promotion offer is. The biggest thing that I'm unsure about is losing the reputation that I have built with this current company.
What would you suggest?
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Posted on 5/6/11 at 3:16 pm to seawolf06
Stay - do not leave a job becuase you think the grass is greener.
With this, if there is more opportunity for you in the possible job - then this would be the only reason. Just know that you leave 3 yrs reputation and have to start over.
With this, if there is more opportunity for you in the possible job - then this would be the only reason. Just know that you leave 3 yrs reputation and have to start over.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 3:24 pm to BayouBengalinBama
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Stay - do not leave a job becuase you think the grass is greener.
With this, if there is more opportunity for you in the possible job - then this would be the only reason. Just know that you leave 3 yrs reputation and have to start over.
This.
Does the new job have a higher ceiling and/or more potential for you to take an active role in the future of the company? Will it payoff not just now but down the line.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 3:39 pm to seawolf06
quote:
Stay or leave
Stay.
NO, wait! Leave!
Uh....stay, definitely stay. Probably. Or, leave.
frick, I don't know!
Posted on 5/6/11 at 3:43 pm to seawolf06
Get yo' paper boo boo.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 3:55 pm to seawolf06
Ask yourself this question, will they being singing this song once you bring it up? Stay or Leave
You know, not literally every word, but you get the idea...
You know, not literally every word, but you get the idea...
Posted on 5/6/11 at 4:18 pm to seawolf06
A good friend of mine gave her two week notice today....
Haven't talked to her as to what happened when she told the boss....
Haven't talked to her as to what happened when she told the boss....
Posted on 5/6/11 at 5:01 pm to LSUDad
quote:
A good friend of mine gave her two week notice today....
Haven't talked to her as to what happened when she told the boss....
I's best to be "prepared" to leave immediately when you tender your resignation....
it's usually a 50/50 chance whether you will stay for the notice period, or leave that day.
Sup Dad?
Posted on 5/6/11 at 5:04 pm to lsu_tiger_az
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I's best to be "prepared" to leave immediately when you tender your resignation..
She knew that going in.
quote:
Sup Dad?
Busy, like thats something new....
Hope all is well on your end.....
Posted on 5/6/11 at 5:09 pm to LSUDad
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Busy, like thats something new....
Tru Dat.....
quote:
Hope all is well on your end.....
Graduating the Littlest Daughter from H/S in three weeks....
"Another one leaves the nest....
Another one leaves the nest...
And another one's gone....
and another one's gone...."
You know the tune to sing that to, right?
Posted on 5/6/11 at 5:20 pm to lsu_tiger_az
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Graduating the Littlest Daughter from H/S in three weeks....
Prayers sent.........
Posted on 5/6/11 at 9:59 pm to seawolf06
It is difficult to say in that we don't know what industry you're in.
First, if you are already at the top company, that is a good thing. You can always move down; it's often tough to move up because the market leader may think that someone who started in a smaller firm may not be cut out for the big league. For example, if you're in banking, having a start a JPMorgan Chase is the gold standard. Having five+ years there will get you a job at any smaller bank. Start at Local Community Bank, not easy to move to JPMorgan Chase.
Second,
Third, before you hop too soon, think about what your resume will look like if it doesn't work out at the new place and you decide to leave quickly. When I see someone under thirty with more than two post-college jobs, I immediately think that there's a risk. That's for my profession. We look for stability.
Fourth, how many firms are there in your industry. If there are many-like banks-you'll always have lots of options. It you're in a niche industry, be careful because you may be limiting your options if you leave and then don't like the new company.
Lastly, how long have you been unhappy? If it hasn't been that long and you were happy before, you may want to stick it out to see if things change or you get a promotion.
quote:Leaving the first job is always scary. But I have a couple of comments.
first job out of college
quote:
My current company is a market leader,
First, if you are already at the top company, that is a good thing. You can always move down; it's often tough to move up because the market leader may think that someone who started in a smaller firm may not be cut out for the big league. For example, if you're in banking, having a start a JPMorgan Chase is the gold standard. Having five+ years there will get you a job at any smaller bank. Start at Local Community Bank, not easy to move to JPMorgan Chase.
Second,
quote:Work is work. That's why they pay you to do it. Are you happy when you get your paycheck? How happy do you think you should be at a job? I've been working for 20+ years. I've been at the current place for more than a decade. There have been some times that I couldn't stand it. But those times haven't lasted so long I couldn't stand it. The pay is good, the environment is good (except for a few times), and I have tons of job security.
Not really happy with my job now (3 years in, first job out of college)
Third, before you hop too soon, think about what your resume will look like if it doesn't work out at the new place and you decide to leave quickly. When I see someone under thirty with more than two post-college jobs, I immediately think that there's a risk. That's for my profession. We look for stability.
Fourth, how many firms are there in your industry. If there are many-like banks-you'll always have lots of options. It you're in a niche industry, be careful because you may be limiting your options if you leave and then don't like the new company.
Lastly, how long have you been unhappy? If it hasn't been that long and you were happy before, you may want to stick it out to see if things change or you get a promotion.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 10:28 pm to wrlakers
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When I see someone under thirty with more than two post-college jobs
I would think this was common these days to the point where it would almost be expected. Three would maybe raise a flag though. Also, you have to consider the current job environment for a college graduate.
Posted on 5/6/11 at 11:04 pm to Tiger Authority
I wrote
You wrote
I think we are posting the same sentiment.
quote:
more than two
You wrote
quote:
Three would maybe raise a flag though.
I think we are posting the same sentiment.
Posted on 5/7/11 at 5:29 am to wrlakers
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First, if you are already at the top company, that is a good thing.
First, I'm in manufacturing. When I said market leader, I didn't mean industry leader. I don't think either company would be considered an industry leader. The current company has been around a lot longer, but the other one seems to be doing a lot better.
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Second,
How happy do you think you should be at a job? I've been working for 20+ years. I've been at the current place for more than a decade. There have been some times that I couldn't stand it. But those times haven't lasted so long I couldn't stand it. The pay is good, the environment is good (except for a few times), and I have tons of job security.
Happy probably isn't the right word. I never thought work would be fun. The environment and the job security are two things that concern me most right now. Raises have come in much lower than I was told when I was hired (economy sucks, etc.), advancement keeps being promised but always seems to fall through. Maybe that's how it is everywhere, but when I interviewed with the other guys, it sounded like a much better situation. FWIW, I have received excellent year end reports every year that I've been here from three different managers.
quote:
Third, before you hop too soon, think about what your resume will look like if it doesn't work out at the new place and you decide to leave quickly. When I see someone under thirty with more than two post-college jobs, I immediately think that there's a risk. That's for my profession. We look for stability.
I have thought about that, but I think it's become more the norm to switch jobs after 3-5 years. A lot of it is the same mentality as switching majors in college. No one really knows what they want when they first get in.
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Fourth, how many firms are there in your industry. If there are many-like banks-you'll always have lots of options. It you're in a niche industry, be careful because you may be limiting your options if you leave and then don't like the new company.
Manufacturing, for the moment, is still alive in the US. I want to go somewhere that I'll get broad experience (supply chain and lean) so that I can expand my options in the future
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Lastly, how long have you been unhappy? If it hasn't been that long and you were happy before, you may want to stick it out to see if things change or you get a promotion.
It's been for the past 12 months more or less. Like I said, job security is becoming more of a concern, especially being the youngest in the plant. There's been 3 plants consolidated this year and of course there's talk of ours being next. I don't really get caught up in the rumor mill, but I don't want to be naive either. I just see this company contracting whereas the other is expanding.
Posted on 5/7/11 at 6:20 am to seawolf06
From a hiring exec:
1. Stay at least 3 years on a job
2. Don't believe anything you are told at the company until you see it in writing.
3. Be careful about moving jobs in this economy. If you move- do your homework
4. Corp. America is ruthless in this economy
5. The company loyalty your parents and grandparents enjoyed no longer exists.
Finally, I think it is wise if most people view themselves as self employed
1. Understand who your customers are-not just corp customers but the people you work with and work for-
2. Be willing to cut your losses and move on if the business dictates it.
1. Stay at least 3 years on a job
2. Don't believe anything you are told at the company until you see it in writing.
3. Be careful about moving jobs in this economy. If you move- do your homework
4. Corp. America is ruthless in this economy
5. The company loyalty your parents and grandparents enjoyed no longer exists.
Finally, I think it is wise if most people view themselves as self employed
1. Understand who your customers are-not just corp customers but the people you work with and work for-
2. Be willing to cut your losses and move on if the business dictates it.
Posted on 5/7/11 at 9:23 am to wrlakers
quote:
I think we are posting the same sentiment.
Yeah my mistake
Posted on 5/7/11 at 5:54 pm to TigerDeBaiter
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TigerDeBaiter
I immediately thought of the Dave song when I saw the thread title. Great song.
Posted on 5/7/11 at 7:11 pm to lsu_tiger_az
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A good friend of mine gave her two week notice today....
Haven't talked to her as to what happened when she told the boss....
I's best to be "prepared" to leave immediately when you tender your resignation..
Her husband just told me that hes fixing to give a two week notice....
Posted on 5/25/11 at 4:33 pm to LSUDad
FWIW I decided to leave. I was offered a better position, equal or better career path and a lot more money. Thanks for the advice.
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