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re: Stanford Financial Houston office's raided

Posted on 2/19/09 at 6:34 pm to
Posted by Tiger JJ
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 6:34 pm to
Or could be total BS rumor, which is probably more likely.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 6:36 pm to
that's why i had to question it

it just doesn't make sense
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

Or could be total BS rumor, which is probably more likely.

This is not implausible. There's a lot of crazy numbers and accusations being thrown around in this thread. It'll take a while for things to settle down and the truth to come out.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 6:39 pm to
BR is one of the worst "rumor" towns ever also

*ETA: i definitely started a rumor mongering thread on the rant though
This post was edited on 2/19/09 at 6:40 pm
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 6:40 pm to
Eyes on the prize brah. I started a thread asking you how it's gone so far, but the First Amendment haters on the OT anchored me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 6:42 pm to
code 1 and code 2...don't feel so bad

code 3....yeesh. no surety or agency really, lots of UCC9 (which i never learned really. i just know the term PSMI is great)

torts...nothing really to say

LACCP....ouch

BA/NI....new tester = easy as frick
Posted by Venicetiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

BR is one of the worst "rumor" towns ever also



Yeah, listen to this guy he is a native that goes way back.
Posted by Venicetiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

How could an attorney put money in a "CD" that was paying 10% and was custodied in Antigua and ever do business again?


They would steer their clients to Stanford and Stanford would spread their legal work among the law firms. Quid pro quo.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 7:34 pm to
bye bye licenses
Posted by kfizzle85
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

They would steer their clients to Stanford and Stanford would spread their legal work among the law firms. Quid pro quo.




That's the situation I was envisioning.
Posted by Venicetiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 7:46 pm to
Interesting picture:

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 7:49 pm to
can't say i made that one
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37597 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

I'm hearing it is much closer to 1.7 billion in the BR region.


So you are claiming almost 1/4th of Stanford's Ponzi scheme (a firm head quartered in Houston with major operations in Miami and Latin America) was with BR money.

I doubt it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:46 pm to
if it's $1B (which is VERY believable) that is still going to be some major shite for BR
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

if it's $1B


I'll take the under big time.

quote:

that is still going to be some major shite for BR


A figure much lower than $1B would cause major shite for BR.

That said I wouldn't be opposed to picking up some land for cheap.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:54 pm to
CCLA may have some openings soon
Posted by Camp Randall
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:51 pm to
That CCLA quote is very true. There are posers galore out there.
Posted by Venicetiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

That CCLA quote is very true. There are posers galore out there.



What about the Mega Churches? I wonder ?
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:59 pm to
I've seen the term "Ponzi scheme" thrown around alot in this thread and in numerous articles... but is that even a fair label at this point? Stanford was obviously misrepresenting these these securities as CD's, which were marketed through the Houston broker-dealer, but has anything been revealed to show that these assets were in fact "underwater"? It's a moot point now as the regulators have now thrown the bank into receivership and all but guaranteed that investors eat substantial losses.

Further,I find it a little odd that Stanford, a relatively obscure and small bank, has been garnering so much press and attention over this. Obviously, Allen Stanford's larger-than-life persona has contributes to the story's press-worthiness - but I just don't follow the regulators' logic of pursuing Stanford while "big banks" have systematically destroyed the dollar and buried us under a mountain of debt. Yet BOA, Wells Fargo, Chase, etc. are all rewarded with billions of dollars and Stanford gets stuck with a subpoena and an order to liquidate.

My two cents...
This post was edited on 2/19/09 at 10:01 pm
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

Stanford was accused in civil charges of lying about the safety of investments he sold as "certificates of deposit" and promised unrealistically high rates of return. Regulators also said he faked historical data about other investments which he then used to lure in more investors for the CD products.
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