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Question about 401K, and contribution limits

Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:26 pm
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:26 pm
I have read a couple of articles, but they aren't 100% clear to me.

I know there is a $19k contribution limit for 2019

Is that calculated using ONLY my contributions or is that calculated by adding my contribution + employee match?

What happens if I go over the limit?

Thanks in advance
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 5:38 pm
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3118 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 5:39 pm to
The $19K is only your contribution. Most payrolls will stop it from going over automatically but if you do someone will cut you a check for the difference.
Posted by blackoutdore
Nashville
Member since Jun 2013
247 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 6:38 pm to
Yep $19k is just your portion. I think your employer can add up to $54k.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77986 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 6:52 pm to
Thanks guys!
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3339 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Yep $19k is just your portion. I think your employer can add up to $54k.



54 is the most you and your employer can put in combined.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 1:08 pm to
19k is the limit for pretax contributions for you. If you want to put more in 401k you can do after tax contributions after you maxed out your 19k pre tax. Like previous poster said max you and employer combined can contribute in a year is 56k
This post was edited on 8/31/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11679 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 2:01 pm to
I might eat crow, but I'm pretty sure you are wrong.

Max you can co tribute to a 401k is $19,000 whether it is pre-tax or Roth. You can do catchup when you're old enough.

You can then contribute $6,000 to an IRA.

If you have 1099 work on the side, there's a convoluted way to do a solo 401k to get to that $54,000 number. You'll need to look up the process on whitecoatinvestor.com and also use the calculator that The Finance Buff provides.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 2:53 pm to
I’ve done over 19k for several years
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11679 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 3:16 pm to
How old are you?
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11679 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 3:18 pm to
LINK

quote:

Basic Limits for 2019 The basic employee contribution limit for 2019 is $19,000, up from $18,500 in 2018. The $19,000 limit includes all elective employee salary deferrals, as well as any after-tax contributions made to a designated Roth account within your 401(k). The same contribution limits apply to 403(b) plans and most 457 plans, as well as to the federal government’s Thrift Savings Plan.

quote:

If you have multiple 401(k) accounts, your total contributions to all of them—both traditional and Roth—cannot exceed that $19,000 limit. Any contributions you make to other types of retirement accounts, such as IRAs, do not affect your 401(k) contribution limit. To encourage workers nearing retirement to speed up their saving, the IRS allows 401(k) participants ages 50 and over to make additional contributions beyond the standard contribution limit. If you are 50 or older, you can kick in an extra $6,000 catch-up contribution, for a total of $25,000. The $6,000 catch-up figure is unchanged from 2018. Employer Contributions Another big benefit of participating in a 401(k) plan is that your employer may contribute to it, as well. Many employers match employee contributions by adding, for example, 50 cents or $1 for every dollar the employee contributes. Employers can also make elective contributions regardless of how much or little the employee contributes, up to certain limits. The general limit on total employer and employee contributions for 2019 is $56,000, or 100% of employee compensation, whichever is lower. For workers 50 and up, the limit is $62,000 ($56,000 plus the $6,000 catch-up contribution).

Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 3:44 pm to
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I guess I’ll double check with my plan provider but I would think that there would be something in their system that would stop me from doing that.
This post was edited on 8/31/19 at 3:54 pm
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11679 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 3:56 pm to
I'm not sure how you are contributing more than $19,000 and not getting a check back. My second quote clearly states that the total of all Pre-tax and Roth contributions cannot exceed $19,000.

Are you including what your employer matches because that doesn't count towards your $19k contribution?

For instance, I can put $23k in every year. $19k contributions + $4k match.
This post was edited on 8/31/19 at 3:58 pm
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 4:05 pm to
Edit: in the 30k range from me
This post was edited on 8/31/19 at 4:15 pm
Posted by hottub
Member since Dec 2012
3339 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

I’ve done over 19k for several years


Maybe with post tax money but not ROTH/pretax.
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 8/31/19 at 6:18 pm to
Right I’ve done 19k pre tax and roughly 15 or so after tax both in 401k
Posted by TheWiz
Third World, LA
Member since Aug 2007
11679 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 9:45 am to
I'm thoroughly confused how you are contributing over $19k into an employer's plan. Maybe I don't understand it like I thought I did.

Are you self-employed?

Do you do 1099 work on the side and contribute to a solo/individual 401k?
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:01 am to
Employed by one of the largest companies in the sector. No side work. I found this on invesopedia talking about the 56k combined about half way down the page. LINK /
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:19 am to
What’s the benefit of putting post tax money into a 401?
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
1265 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 10:23 am to
At the end of year I roll after tax contributions into Roth IRA and can get access to the contributions in the ira at any age with no penalty. Just can’t touch the gains. And once in the Roth it grows all tax free. I’ve deff gonna make a call and see what’s goin on with the whole over 19k thing bc I’m a little confused how I’ve been able to do that over the years. Here’s another link that provides the example LINK /
This post was edited on 9/1/19 at 10:41 am
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6218 posts
Posted on 9/1/19 at 4:37 pm to
Good question

With today’s political climate, I see very little reason to do so. Stash the money away somewhere else.
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