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Quantitative Easing working like a champ...
Posted on 4/3/09 at 11:27 am
Posted on 4/3/09 at 11:27 am
Awesome.
Posted on 4/3/09 at 11:31 am to Colonel Hapablap
Your sarcasm is going over my head, Colonel. What is your point? That rates are creeping back up a few weeks after the Fed's announcement? 
Posted on 4/3/09 at 11:34 am to LSURussian
my point is that the QE operations can only hold down interest rates until the overpayer (the Fed) is done buying. Market prices then return to the equilibrium of supply and demand. And $300B is pissing in the ocean of new supply, much less total supply.
Posted on 4/3/09 at 11:56 am to Colonel Hapablap
But in the meantime didn't a record number of re-fi's occur, thereby freeing up billions of discretionary income for the economy as well as turning some non-performing mortgages into performing loans?
Posted on 4/3/09 at 12:20 pm to LSURussian
in the last 10 days? I hadn't heard about that. I did get to lock at 4.375 on mine tho. 
Posted on 4/3/09 at 12:30 pm to LSURussian
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as well as turning some non-performing mortgages into performing loans?
I doubt a refi can really do this, maybe help at the edges. But if a few hundred a month make that much of a difference per month, you are probably on the edge anyway.
But it is good for the economy to get these re-fi'd.
I am still debating when its time to buy a home. We sold in 2005, and would like to buy again....but I hate to overpay. But 4.3% is tempting.
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:00 pm to MileHigh
A bank will refi you if you aren't current on your loan?
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:02 pm to kfizzle85
quote:Absolutely! Especially if it means a restructuring to avoid foreclosure. Contrary to conventional wisdom, banks hate to foreclose on real estate. It's very expensive and the bank loses money every time.
A bank will refi you if you aren't current on your loan?
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:05 pm to MileHigh
quote:I'm just going by what an economist said on the Bloomberg channel said last week. He estimated something like $100 billion dollars annually of additional discretionary income resulting from the re-fi's since the Fed's action. Of course, I can't vouch for his accuracy and I don't have a link.
I doubt a refi can really do this, maybe help at the edges. But if a few hundred a month make that much of a difference per month, you are probably on the edge anyway.
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:06 pm to LSURussian
$100B annualy sounds a lot like an annualized rate based on 10 days of business. But I didn't see it, so I could easily be mistaken.
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:07 pm to Colonel Hapablap
quote:Yes. Ken Lewis said in his interview on CNBC with Maria "Lips" Bartoroma that their mortgage sub (remember Country Wide which they bought?) had their biggest re-fi month ever in March.
in the last 10 days?
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:23 pm to LSURussian
I just thought a major hurdle to getting a refi was equity in the house already. I think most people here know banks don't like to foreclose, I have no idea how the opposite is considered popular belief.
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:31 pm to kfizzle85
quote:That's not what you asked earlier. You said "not current" without mentioning equity in the house. But even with loans that are under water, banks have been restructuring those loans and writing off the principal, per Barney Frank's and Maxine Water's wishes.
I just thought a major hurdle to getting a refi was equity in the house already.
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I think most people here know banks don't like to foreclose, I have no idea how the opposite is considered popular belief.
I can't tell you how many people have angrily told me (once they learned I'm been in banking for a while) that banks like to make home loans to borrowers who the bank knows can't repay the loan just so the bank can foreclose on the property and own it. Hundreds, I'd guess. I've seen it on this board as well. The next time I see someone write that type of comment on here, I'll alert you.
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:34 pm to LSURussian
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I'm just going by what an economist said on the Bloomberg channel said last week. He estimated something like $100 billion dollars annually of additional discretionary income resulting from the re-fi's since the Fed's action. Of course, I can't vouch for his accuracy and I don't have a link.
oh, I agree. Its going to free up a lot of income, which is good. I was just talking about the houses that were problem spots. I don't think refi-ing is going to change it that much.
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:34 pm to LSURussian
Actually, I'd be willing to bet that they're far LESS likely to foreclose if you're late and underwater than if you're late with a bunch of equity.
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:39 pm to MileHigh
quote:No but restructuring a problem loan using a lower interest rate has the same effect: it lowers the monthly P & I.
I don't think refi-ing is going to change it that much.
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:40 pm to Colonel Hapablap
quote:You'd probably win that bet.
I'd be willing to bet that they're far LESS likely to foreclose if you're late and underwater than if you're late with a bunch of equity.
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:45 pm to LSURussian
of course, if you're late with a bunch of equity, you're retarded if you don't just sell your house and rent for a while.
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:49 pm to LSURussian
When you say conventional wisdom, I assumed you were referring to the people on this board, since you think we're all idiots.
Posted on 4/3/09 at 1:58 pm to kfizzle85
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since you think we're all idiots.
Not all....
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