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re: Options Trading Thread
Posted on 6/2/24 at 10:03 am to jefforize
Posted on 6/2/24 at 10:03 am to jefforize
Forgive me (my coffee may not have kicked in yet
), but would you go through your trades again?
Did you sell to open (short) the 526 and 521 SPY calls and then bought to close the positions or you bought to open (long) and then sold to close earlier than you would have liked?

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Sold a 6/3 526c AND a 521c (that I bought at the bottom today) for a combined 60 dollar loss
Did you sell to open (short) the 526 and 521 SPY calls and then bought to close the positions or you bought to open (long) and then sold to close earlier than you would have liked?
Posted on 6/7/24 at 9:13 am to Jag_Warrior
For this week, other than running my standard SPX short synthetic strangles, I put on some heavy short put spread positions (252.5/240 - 6/7 expiration) on LULU (a ticker I’ve never traded before). Given the uncertainty with the current economic environment, I wasn’t crazy about a trade in a retailer/clothier. But after the earnings report, the IV crush and the price action turned the options to dust. So it worked out well.
Other smaller stuff was a 6/7 short strangle on AMZN at 167.5p/187.5c, a short call on CZR at 40 and short puts on WFC at 58 (possibly assigned today) and 57.
Other smaller stuff was a 6/7 short strangle on AMZN at 167.5p/187.5c, a short call on CZR at 40 and short puts on WFC at 58 (possibly assigned today) and 57.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 9:26 am to Jag_Warrior
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short synthetic strangles
Have never tried one.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 4:24 pm to BCreed1
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short synthetic strangles
Just short iron condors with extremely wide (not really protective) long wings. The long options are just cheap “junk” options that are in place to lessen the buying power reduction, compared to the outrageous amount of account equity it would take to actually sell a strangle on SPX.
My average lot size is 30, and daily totals overall, as many as 80. Typically, depending on price action and technicals, I’ll choose the put side or the call side to put on first, then when/if the market moves favorably, put on the other side to complete the IC/strangle. These are generally lower delta (5-7 delta on the shorts) and 0-1DTE trades.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 11:26 am to Jag_Warrior
Purchased PMCC on NVDA.... short term.. Oct 18 and sold next call for $200
Posted on 6/11/24 at 6:58 am to Jag_Warrior
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jag_warrior
Didn’t see that you replied until now. Timeline was:
Buy 1DTE 526 call near open hoping number go up.
Number go down, hold too long, sell to close at substantial loss for reasons unknown (inexperience).
Buy 1DTE 521 call. Number goes up, sell to close before the rocket ship took off.
Love your posts on here

Wednesday looks to be quite the trading day.
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 7:02 am
Posted on 6/12/24 at 11:43 am to jefforize
OK, now I understand what happened. Don’t beat yourself up though. There were some pretty unpredictable whipsaw movements in SPX and SPY that day. Hard to get the buy/sell timing just right in situations like that.
Although the VIX is still depressed, premiums on SPX 0DTE options are somewhat elevated today, mainly because of the Fed announcement due later this afternoon. So I’m launching and managing several lots of SPX 0DTE synthetic strangles.
Getting timely executions doesn’t seem to be as good (IMO) since Schwab took over TDA. My main trading account transferred over a couple of weeks ago and I’ve experienced a number of execution issues, mainly when putting on larger lots of SPX option trades. I’m not sure why, but I’m looking into it. Any other Think or Swim users, who’ve recently been migrated to Schwab, noticing issues when doing larger lot trades?
Although the VIX is still depressed, premiums on SPX 0DTE options are somewhat elevated today, mainly because of the Fed announcement due later this afternoon. So I’m launching and managing several lots of SPX 0DTE synthetic strangles.
Getting timely executions doesn’t seem to be as good (IMO) since Schwab took over TDA. My main trading account transferred over a couple of weeks ago and I’ve experienced a number of execution issues, mainly when putting on larger lots of SPX option trades. I’m not sure why, but I’m looking into it. Any other Think or Swim users, who’ve recently been migrated to Schwab, noticing issues when doing larger lot trades?
Posted on 6/12/24 at 10:08 pm to Jag_Warrior
May be useful information for those who trade 0-1DTE SPX and SPY options and use volatility indicators as guidance tools.
VIX1D
How Does the Cboe’s VIX1D Work?
VIX1D
How Does the Cboe’s VIX1D Work?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 11:44 am to Jag_Warrior
I will study these. Would love to open another "arm" of trading.
Would you be willing to let me/us know as soon as you take a position and what that position is? I will take the same position and try to follow along with that.
I completely understand if that's a big "no"
Would you be willing to let me/us know as soon as you take a position and what that position is? I will take the same position and try to follow along with that.
I completely understand if that's a big "no"
Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:02 pm to BCreed1
Sorry to leave you hanging like that. I didn’t see your post until now. I don’t mind doing that. Once I can get back to my regular trading routine on SPX, I’ll try to offer some (close to) real time trades. The issue that I’ve had of late (with SPX being my bread & butter underlying) is the dismal IV/VIX level.
With the VIX dipping into the 11s and 1Day VIX routinely in the 7s, it’s made premiums incredibly low, and the risk/reward picture unfavorable for premium selling on SPX contracts. So in my business trading account, I’ve had to (finally) devote capital to equity options on underlyings that have some decent IV and premium… while staying away from fly by night speculative junk.
I don’t like having to do that because equity options typically don’t offer 0-1DTE contracts, unless you’re trading on a Thursday or Friday. Plus, the tax treatment on those types of contracts isn’t as favorable as index options. Yes, I could attempt to day trade higher delta short options and close by the end of the day. And that’s probably something that I’ll need to consider with both equity and index options if the IV picture doesn’t change soon.
So this week, I’ve traded larger lots of ARM and smaller lots of AMZN, NVDA, NKE and WHR options - mostly short puts, but also some covered calls and call spreads. Profitable, but compared to what I had been raking in daily on SPX options, this is chump change.
With the VIX dipping into the 11s and 1Day VIX routinely in the 7s, it’s made premiums incredibly low, and the risk/reward picture unfavorable for premium selling on SPX contracts. So in my business trading account, I’ve had to (finally) devote capital to equity options on underlyings that have some decent IV and premium… while staying away from fly by night speculative junk.
I don’t like having to do that because equity options typically don’t offer 0-1DTE contracts, unless you’re trading on a Thursday or Friday. Plus, the tax treatment on those types of contracts isn’t as favorable as index options. Yes, I could attempt to day trade higher delta short options and close by the end of the day. And that’s probably something that I’ll need to consider with both equity and index options if the IV picture doesn’t change soon.
So this week, I’ve traded larger lots of ARM and smaller lots of AMZN, NVDA, NKE and WHR options - mostly short puts, but also some covered calls and call spreads. Profitable, but compared to what I had been raking in daily on SPX options, this is chump change.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 1:20 pm to Jag_Warrior

Currently enjoying my PMCC on NVIDA, TSM, RDDT, and a few smaller ones.
Been a great 2 weeks!
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:27 am to Jag_Warrior
Jag! Have you seen the new 0 DTE oracle released by Option Alpha? Should be right up your alley.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:45 am to LSUtoOmaha
I went to celebrate last night with my wife! Reached a milestone by the close on Friday.
Will now turn my attention to some bigger Covered Calls rather than PMCCs (will still do those).
I am looking at NVDA. I will sell puts on it Monday. As of now, I will sell the $125 strike for $245. Should I end up with the shares. I will sell the next call up from the current price. My goal is to do 10 or more of these per week to fund my little one's account for her future.
Will now turn my attention to some bigger Covered Calls rather than PMCCs (will still do those).
I am looking at NVDA. I will sell puts on it Monday. As of now, I will sell the $125 strike for $245. Should I end up with the shares. I will sell the next call up from the current price. My goal is to do 10 or more of these per week to fund my little one's account for her future.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:30 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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Jag! Have you seen the new 0 DTE oracle released by Option Alpha? Should be right up your alley.
No, I’m in the dark on that. I’ll have to see what that’s about. Thanks!
I’ve considered other index options, but I need to study the price action, technicals and bid/ask spreads a LOT more.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:47 pm to Jag_Warrior
I've been experimenting with SPX on the OA oracle
Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:52 am to LSUtoOmaha
For any posters that go long and buy the occasional leap. At what point do you usually look to roll your position up and out?
Small time $ here but sitting on
1/17/25 RKLB 4.5c that are solidly itm now with the stock up 18% in the past month to $5.15.
Small time $ here but sitting on
1/17/25 RKLB 4.5c that are solidly itm now with the stock up 18% in the past month to $5.15.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 10:35 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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For any posters that go long and buy the occasional leap. At what point do you usually look to roll your position up and out?
For me with TSM, I rolled out From Jan to March 2025. It was up a lot and I want to capture some of the profit.
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RKLB
I looked and if you roll it out and up, It's still going to cost you if you stay in the money. You would have to go out of the money to the 7 strike and still pay $15.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:07 am to BCreed1
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Would you be willing to let me/us know as soon as you take a position and what that position is?
It’s difficult for me to make a real time trading post when I’m working a trade, but at least I can let you know what the trade is once it executes.
With the instant blip up that the S&P got at the open, there was a technical overbought condition - plus expected resistance at 5650. So when the SPX touched 5646, I got an execution on 0DTE short call spreads at 5690/5720 for .50. The delta on the short call side was approximately 4.3% at execution. The VIX stood at approximately 12.8. The 1 day VIX was around 8.6.
As it stands now, those call spreads are priced at .30.
Posted on 7/15/24 at 9:21 am to Jag_Warrior
Depending on price action through the session, I may add on to this position or I may put on a similar position at a higher (or lower) short call strike.
But mainly I would like to put on a balancing/neutralizing short put spread position to create an iron condor. In essence, that will be a “free trade”, as it will have no affect on my BPR (buying power reduction).
But mainly I would like to put on a balancing/neutralizing short put spread position to create an iron condor. In essence, that will be a “free trade”, as it will have no affect on my BPR (buying power reduction).
Posted on 7/15/24 at 11:27 am to Jag_Warrior
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or I may put on a similar position at a higher (or lower) short call strike.
Larger lot of 5705/5730 SCVs put on when SPX topped 5665 @ .45 net credit. Currently down to .10 with the “noon swoon” loss of overall market strength.
Now looking at a large lot of neutralizing 5575/5545 SPVs to form the iron condor/synthetic strangle. As the market loses strength, I’m still (closely) watching price action and momentum before entering the trade.
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