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re: Options Trading Thread
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:37 am to Jag_Warrior
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:37 am to Jag_Warrior
Ha! I can give you a $75 microloan.
I've been short the DIS 84 puts a long time and am ready for them to go away as well.
Have you taken a look at TTD? I like the company so may play a 10 delta or so.

I've been short the DIS 84 puts a long time and am ready for them to go away as well.
Have you taken a look at TTD? I like the company so may play a 10 delta or so.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 10:38 am to Jag_Warrior
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Looking/hoping to (finally) get Mickey Mouse out of my back bedroom!

Ok. I closed my 442.5 call. Was credited $460 on it, closed with $108 left. My long is now more than what I paid to enter this position. On the next up, I will sell another CC on it.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:20 am to LSUtoOmaha
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Have you taken a look at TTD? I like the company so may play a 10 delta or so.
I didn’t catch that one for today. 67.7 IV and a decent 44% IV percentile - expected move of 9.17. Yeah, I’ll likely go for that one instead of doing anything with WYNN. Thank you.

Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:54 pm to Jag_Warrior
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Jag_Warrior
Thanks for the helpful IV explanation, I will have to go thru some of the education links in Thinkorswim and few other examples on the web to fully get it but will get there. As usual seem to be on the wrong side of the trade for my own picks (PLTR & DKNG bought calls after earnings and flirting with assignment on PLTR sell put) this week and doing ok shadow trading you guys for premium credits and learning a thing or two.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 3:14 pm to LSUTIGERS74
I have been watching Tasty Trades videos on YouTube. They are very informative for options selling.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 3:16 pm to LSUtoOmaha
TTD beat on all metrics and is down 5% after hours, in the 76-77 range. I have one put from last week at 72, and another at 68. Would rather it stays above those two numbers but am fine with being assigned.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 5:48 pm to LSUtoOmaha
I took the short put trade on TTD at the 68 strike. Thanks again. As a filler trade, I (somehow) convinced myself to also take WYNN short puts at 94 (15 delta). Right now, they both look OK.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 5:50 pm to LSUTIGERS74
It’s a learning curve, but hang in there. This is a much more profitable trading strategy than most people realize.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 8:12 pm to Jag_Warrior
Jag- one thing that bothers me is how rolling positions down is presented. Rolling can certainly make sense as a capital efficient strategy, but it's not a free lunch and can keep you in something when it's time to cut losses and move on. I feel like it's often implied as some fool-proof thing
Posted on 8/9/23 at 8:31 pm to LSUtoOmaha
True. It’s certainly not foolproof. It’s very situational. There are times when the underlying isn’t worth holding onto and an early exit with a small loss is certainly better than a later exit with a large loss. I have some dogs still laying in my trading portfolio that I’ll just dump before year’s end to reduce my taxes. Next year, I have to use “mark to market”, and I can’t sit on too many open positions long term.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 9:01 pm to Jag_Warrior
I ended up taking WYNN as well on 93/80 for .49 credit
Posted on 8/10/23 at 8:58 am to Jag_Warrior
You guys Short alot don't you.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 10:06 am to Jjdoc
In my case, I’m always net short. My only long option positions are when I sell spreads, like in the case of SPX (where even one pure strangle wouldn’t be practical - so I do these WIDE wing spreads that are effectively “synthetic” strangles) or something like jade lizards or iron condors.
I go for option trades where the probability of profit is heavily in my favor. I’ve seen serious money or profit % made by people (like Thatguy777) who take debit trades, but I don’t trust my predictive skills enough to be consistently profitable. And this year, my “win rate” is something over 97%. I can be completely wrong on direction, but as long as I’m right on the range (using deltas and technicals), I “win”.
I go for option trades where the probability of profit is heavily in my favor. I’ve seen serious money or profit % made by people (like Thatguy777) who take debit trades, but I don’t trust my predictive skills enough to be consistently profitable. And this year, my “win rate” is something over 97%. I can be completely wrong on direction, but as long as I’m right on the range (using deltas and technicals), I “win”.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 10:08 am to LSUTIGERS74
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I ended up taking WYNN as well on 93/80 for .49 credit
This was the 8/11 expiration, correct?
Nice score!

Posted on 8/10/23 at 10:25 am to Jag_Warrior
Yes, 8/11 exp. I like your explanation above on shorts. I have played options for nearly 20 years on & off but mostly on the long side and am actually a terrible predicator which is why I am now more interested in calculated plays where direction is less important. The appeal of the long call was always the big chance of a large pay day (and the not so great appeal of when the stock goes the other direction), but small wins I am finding are much less stressful!
Posted on 8/10/23 at 11:55 am to Jag_Warrior
We need to have a long talk on the differences. Being serious.
I spend most of my trades in selling poor man's covered calls. The only time I sell puts is when I want to enter a stock at a lower price or I lost a stock from a covered call.
I will generally stay below a .20 delta.
You guys seem to sell puts in the exact opposite way.
I spend most of my trades in selling poor man's covered calls. The only time I sell puts is when I want to enter a stock at a lower price or I lost a stock from a covered call.
I will generally stay below a .20 delta.
You guys seem to sell puts in the exact opposite way.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 3:01 pm to LSUTIGERS74
I still play long options sometimes, but it's typically before earnings plays where there is often a swell in implied volatility
Posted on 8/10/23 at 4:32 pm to LSUtoOmaha
A couple of questions for Jag_Warrior, (1) What is the advantage to trading 0DTE SPX vs SPY (2) When I run a simulated trade earlier this afternoon for a SPV on SPX it has a huge effect on buying power due to the underlying price, am I missing how to properly trade these as it seems like your buying power would have to be very large to execute?
Posted on 8/10/23 at 7:27 pm to LSUTIGERS74
One huge difference is that SPX is cash settled, there is no assignment. I don't trade on margin at this point, and I don't trade naked either. That will change, but there is too much risk (for me) to trade naked in the low IV environment. So with that said, I trade short premium spreads only. Buying power is only ever the width of the spread, less the credit received.
If you are in learning mode (as I am), I strongly suggest sticking to defined risk, short premium trades. Tasty and OA, the 2 think tanks I trust, are both aligned on that methodology.
If you are in learning mode (as I am), I strongly suggest sticking to defined risk, short premium trades. Tasty and OA, the 2 think tanks I trust, are both aligned on that methodology.
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 7:29 pm
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