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Opening new personal credit card for rewards purposes. Which one’s right for me?

Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:23 pm
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11447 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:23 pm
Posted this in the CC Rewards and Points Discussion thread too.

A little background, wife and I have always just had CC’s that didn’t really pay much on rewards, and I wasn’t comfortable enough to say “Hey, let’s run a lot of our expenses through a credit card for the rewards.” They were used more for emergencies.

So, fast forward to now, we own a retail business and are running all of our inventory through a Chase Ink Businss Premier. Store does well enough that paying in full monthly is not a problem. It ends up being around $400k per year. I’ve just been getting my 2% cash back and rolling along.

In the meantime, our personal financial situation (through some inheritance) has improved to where we are debt free (other than the house), and now I would feel comfortable running some day to day expenses through a CC and start playing the rewards game. I don’t want to get complicated, but if there’s a way I can fly or stay somewhere for free, I want to do so.

Someone mentioned pooling points with Chase Sapphire in the other thread. Can someone explain a little how this works? I assume that if I have a Chase Sapphire account that my business can deposit the Business Premier points into the Sapphire account?

To kind of give a background on our typical yearly lives, we go on a couple true vacations per year, probably 4-6 weekends out of town per year, and then travel for business 3-4 times per year. We fly rarely, maybe on a plane once every 2 years, but if I had rewards that were tied to flying, renting cars, etc. we’d explore that option more. Wife’s a Hilton Honors member, I’m a Marriot and Hyatt member, but we really just stay where ever the best deal and most convenient place seems to be.

So what’s a good direction for me to go?

Chase Sapphire? Reserve or Preferred?
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34791 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:47 pm to
I got the preferred the reserve didn't seem like it's worth the $550 fee unless you travel a ton but if you don't fly then it probably isn't worth it

Hyatt probably gives you the most value for chase points out of the transfer partners you can find some crazy cheap deals there. Marriot is more of a rip off when it comes to transferring points

You can transfer all your points from other Chase cards to the Sapphire to use for travel redemptions. You will be absolutely rolling in travel points if you charge $400k a year
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 4:53 pm
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12202 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 5:39 pm to
I always fly out of IAH. Not a ton but prob 7-9 times a year for work then a couple of times for fun. Company pays the annual fee for a United rewards Chase card. Got 60,000 bonus miles for signing up. Can’t remember what miles I get for purchases are but they seem to add up quick.

For reference, your average flight is free for about 15k miles. Plus other perks include priority boarding, free checked bag, and passes to United Club at the airport (free booze/food).

I’ve been happy with it. Note, IAH is a hub for United and flies pretty much anywhere direct. Not sure if it’s worth it if you’re not near a hub airport of some airline.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 7:31 pm
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2821 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 7:34 pm to
I believe the Chase Saphirre preferred just announced a higher sign up bonus so your timing is pretty good.

I had the reserve and currently have the preferred. I have a AmEx platinum and gave up the reserve as I couldn’t justify keeping both at the time. What is nice about the reserve is the $300 travel credit. When the fee was $450, just that alone helped pay for the card. It’s a little harder at $550.

As someone pointed out, the Hyatt points transfer is one of the best uses for points. You get that with either the preferred or reserve. The reserve does give you a better discount when using the points to pay for travel through the chase portal.

Posted by RickAstley
Reno, Nevada
Member since May 2011
2004 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:06 pm to
For personal expenses I mostly juggle between Chase Freedom, Chase Freedom Unlimited and Chase Sapphire Reserve. Whichever card offers the best point earnings on a purchase is the one I will use. I end up rolling all the points to Chase Sapphire Reserve for travel redemption. There are some circumstances where I'll deviate from this, but it's a pretty simple strategy overall. The Chase Sapphire Reserve has an annual fee, but the other cards do not.
Posted by cdl2006
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Member since Nov 2007
311 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:45 pm to
If you want simple, consider the Venture X. You earn 2 points per dollar and anything that codes as travel can be wiped away with your points. It’s got some solid benefits as well. If you want to maximize value, I would recommend Chase. How you intend to use the points (destinations, brands, etc.) will ultimately determine the best cards for you. The best strategy will involve multiple cards. I primarily have Chase since I do a lot of stays at Hyatt. If you want airport lounge access, get the Reserve. If that’s not a big deal, the Preferred would be the card to get. The Reserve’s $300 travel credit is pretty easy to use so the annual fee is basically $250 and would get you some other perks. Note that the Ink Business Premier card is the only Ink card that you can not transfer points to your other cards. Also note that with that much spend, you could easily spend your way to Globalist status with Hyatt, which is pretty valuable. Free breakfast, upgrades, etc…
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 9:57 pm
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34791 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

Note that the Ink Business Premier card is the only Ink card that you can not transfer points to your other cards.
dang that’s unfortunate for this guy

Does the $300 credit for the reserve have to be booked through the Chase portal to get it? I hate how you only get the $50 Preferred credit if you book through Chase which I almost never do
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 10:01 pm
Posted by cdl2006
SCP
Member since Nov 2007
311 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:05 pm to
The Reserve credit is different. As long as it codes as travel, you get it credited. It does not need to be booked through the portal like the Preferred credit. Charges such as parking will even trigger it.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27103 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

Does the $300 credit for the reserve have to be booked through the Chase portal to get it? I hate how you only get the $50 Preferred credit if you book through Chase which I almost never do

I flat out get it by accident every year, normally within the first few months. To the point that I don't really consider it to be part of the annual fee.

Stolen from the Points Guy:

quote:

Some examples of types of purchases that count for the Sapphire Reserve's travel credit include:

Airline charges
Hotels
Timeshares
Campgrounds
Car rental agencies
Cruise lines
Travel agency services
Train tickets
Bus tickets
Taxis and car services
Toll bridges and highways
Parking lots and garages
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34791 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:56 pm to
It sucks that the $50 credit has to be booked through the portal. Pretty sure I never even used my credit last year
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 11:05 pm
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5174 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:17 pm to
The Chase Ink Premier is the only Chase card that does not allow you to transfer points to other cards/airlines/etccc

Keep that in mind if hoping to use it for travel rewards
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39589 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:48 pm to
Honestly, when people ask me in real life what to do when they find out what I do with CCs, I tell them the truth.

If you aren't willing to do hours of research on the various programs, having logins to possibly 10-15 airlines, comfortable figuring out what time of day to call a Japanese airline to get an English speaking representative, spending hours of time researching availability and seeing what time seats release for booking (usually in the wee hours of the night), so that you can have a chance at booking two business class seats, on days you actually prefer, then I tell them get the best cash back card each bank offers and rotate among them.

Otherwise you're going to kill so much value as to make it not work out. The amount of effort I put in if
honestly valued probably eats a lot of the gain, but I approach it as a hobby.

ETA: As for that $300 credit. Credit where credit is due by Chase just making that a simple reimbursement from making purchases. Now, if they had the choice to do it now they'd probably force you to their travel portal (like the $50 credit) but they didn't have a strong operation there when they launched that card. Of course Amex has taken the coupon book to incredible heights.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 12:08 am
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35691 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 7:11 am to
don't do it. don't get a card that forces you to spend $10,000 to only get a $100 reward.
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5426 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 8:22 am to
I have the AMEX Platinum and the Chase Freedom Unlimited. The AMEX doesn't have great cash back (5x points per dollar spent on travel, 1x for everything else) but it has a ridiculous amount of statement credits. $240/year for streaming services, $200 hotel credit, $200 airline credit, $200 Uber credit and complimentary gold/elite status at Mariott, Hilton, AVIS, and Hertz. Also gives you lounge access. It's a steep annual fee of $695 but it's pretty dang easy to break even at a minimum just based on the things above. Main reason for signing up with them was they had 150,000 point sign up bonus.

They also have great transfer partners but you have to really study up on that (like the poster said above) to get real value out of that.

I put everyday purchases on the Chase card and big purchases on the AMEX.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11447 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 8:51 am to
quote:

Note that the Ink Business Premier card is the only Ink card that you can not transfer points to your other cards. Also note that with that much spend, you could easily spend your way to Globalist status with Hyatt, which is pretty valuable. Free breakfast, upgrades, etc…


Dang that sucks, but not bad either I guess. Kind of makes this all less appealing. We do have to go to ATL for business multiple times/yr and Hyatt Regency downtown or Grand Hyatt in Buckhead are great. Confused about how to go about this though? Do I transfer points into my Hyatt account? I can’t find where to do it.

We also have a lesser used AMEX Blue Business, and I have a personal AMEX Blue Cash Everday already. I could upgrade cards and go the AMEX 1:2 Hilton Honors route and just rack up a ton of Hilton Honors points.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 8:54 am
Posted by cdl2006
SCP
Member since Nov 2007
311 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:28 pm to
You would transfer points from your various Chase cards to your Preferred/Reserve. Those are the cards that allow transfers to travel partners. For the business card, you would need to look at the three Ink cards that allow transfers and see which one compliments your spending the best. Getting all three is also an option and they typically have pretty nice sign up bonuses. Once the points are with your Preferred/Reserve, you would transfer them to your Hyatt account and make a points booking. If I can’t get more then $0.02/pt, I pay the cash rate.

If you value breakfast, I would recommend looking into the Hyatt business card too so you can spend your way to Globalist status. For every $10k you spend, you get 5 qualifying nights. Once you get 60 QNs through stays at Hyatt and credit card spend, you get Globalists. You can also get the personal Hyatt card which gets you 5 QNs every year plus a free category 4 night for only $95. My family of 6 has gotten free breakfast including gratuities, which has been as much as $150/day, every time we stay at one of the nicer Hyatts. This includes the Regency. On top of that, you get free upgrades frequently along with other awards as you make your way to sixty nights.

If you like Hilton, look into the AMEX Hilton Aspire. You get 3x points for all spending on that card. Both my wife and I have this card even though the annual fee is $550 year. It comes with a free night certificate that can be used at just about any Hilton worldwide if they have a standard points room available. The certificate alone could be worth $1,000+. On top of that, you get a biannual $200 resort credit, and a quarterly $50 flight credit, as well as Hilton diamond status, and some other stuff. We spent two nights in Key West Easter weekend and each used a FNC. The room would have been about $850 a night and we split our room charges at the end on the two cards and each got credited back $200 of our room charges. $2,100 in value with $1,100 in annual fees and that’s only taking advantage of a portion of the card’s benefits. You can also get additional FNCs with spend on this card. One thing with Hilton points though as that they are best saved for trips of 5+ nights. This is because when you book 4 nights on points, you get a fifth night free.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32973 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:34 pm to
This question gets asked quite often and the answers are usually Chase Saphire or CapitalOne Venture/X.

If you aren’t loyal to a particular airline or aren’t looking to get a specific rewards, you could probably look to see which of the above has the better sign up bonus and go with it.

But I’d recommend researching each to see what’s best for you.
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