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Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:33 am to
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:33 am to
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I think that is why the projects working on hybrid systems that include the best properties of each system and exclude the worst through clever engineering of protocol incentives will win....eventually.

Eventually could take a long time. Or it could happen much faster than we think.


is iota one of those projects? and yeah, i think youre right, i feel like technology is being adopted rapidly, even faster than most everyone in this thread anticipated. keeping up with the changes in this space literally takes over an hour PER DAY
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 10:34 am
Posted by Douglas Quaid
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:41 am to
Unfortunately, in the US it is an asset transaction.

Questions like that are among the roadblocks to mass adoption. The 'guvment doesn't have to ban crypto...they can make it such a pain in the arse to use that the masses simply won't bother.

I'd guess that you'd have KYC with Paypal and they issue you a tax record at the end of the year detailing your transactions along with reporting same to the IRS.
Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:59 am to
Yes, IOTA is one of these projects but that is not what sets it apart from the crowd. Data transactions and no built in transaction fees are what set IOTA apart.

Other hybrid projects that I know of are Decred and Avalanche. I'm sure there are many more that I don't have time to look into.

Fully agree that there is not enough time in the day for due diligence on even 5% of the projects out there.

I find it fascinating that there are very smart people on both sides of the POW and POS debate that are completely convinced that they are right and the other side are morons.

And maybe both sides are right. Maybe BTC is the perfect most secure system that is best suited to be the layer 0 settlement network and everything else branches out from there trading security for scalability.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:11 am to
Probably an ignorant question,but since the founder is unknown who would make this decision? If its majority bitcoin holders, how does this work?
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 11:12 am
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:23 am to
As a Bitcoin bull and buyer I’ve always wondered how it could decouple from the dollar as far as payment. Let’s say you want to buy something that is the equivalent cost of $10. Will the cost be listed as .000175...? It wouldn’t be listed as $10 and paid as the Bitcoin equivalent (.000175...) if the dollar is useless. Not sure if this makes sense and it may already be happening as I honestly have never looked at doing a payment transaction with BTC.
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:26 am to
the mining pools would have to adopt the new standard so any hard fork would be viewed as a completely different coin and there would always be people mining the original chain.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:40 am to
Oh ok, so it's the miners that make the decision? So the bitcoin cash guys were bitcoin miners and they hard forked it to bitcoin cash and the original miners stayed?
Posted by lsugerberbaby
baton rouge
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:46 am to
Can one of you experts help me understand this Uniswap article?

PundiX

I own quite a bit NPXS. I'm in Louisiana, so I cannot trade on Binance. I transferred my tokens to my Bittrex wallet (although it's not traded there either - I did not want them stuck on Binance). I don't want to get stuck holding an old ticker that I cannot trade in the future.

Is moving my coins to the FX wallet the best move? Or are there any other recommendations?

TIA.
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:48 am to
with PoW + full nodes, neither miners nor the biggest BTC hodlers can change the protocol.

thats why the original chain will always exist.

some miners or hodlers might adopt the hard fork PoS bitcoin but im assuming most will stick with the original PoW bitcoin

IF there was a complete global ban on PoW, it could get pretty interesting, and you might need to KYC into the new PoS fork (this part is all speculation)

This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 11:51 am
Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:58 am to
That is true for a PoW -> PoW fork. For a PoW -> PoS fork there is no need for the miners post fork so obviously the miners wouldn't agree to the change in the first place.

Look to Ethereum for the blue print, though to my knowledge they still haven't arrived at exactly how to transition the network so it must be pretty messy.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:00 pm to
Ok, starting to make a little more sense now
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

For a PoW -> PoS fork there is no need for the miners post fork so obviously the miners wouldn't agree to the change in the first place.


thats what i said, but who knows, some miners might agree to it, thats the interesting part

at that point it will become quite political
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:09 pm to
Yeah, I missed your second post clarifying. All good.

This topic brings up another fascinating aspect of picking long term crypto winners and losers.

Network transitions seem to be almost always a messy contentious affair. There always seems to be some rebels who stick with the old chain. Some move to other projects. Some move ahead with the new philosophy. This would seem to emphasize the importance of getting it right the first time. Yet, that is hard, probably impossible, to do in the lightning fast tech changing crypto world.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:15 pm to
Anyone in HOT?

Im up like 600% and I dont know what to do
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:23 pm to
good point. on the other hand, it's also hard to trust chains which are continually changing monetary policy.
Posted by lsugerberbaby
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
3047 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Anyone in HOT?


Yup! And NPXS. Both have been killing it.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14873 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 1:28 pm to
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burritos for bitcoin at chipotle this week

its happening isnt it


Just noticed it's on 4/1. April fools?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 1:35 pm to
it involves picking 6 digit strings like your mining and they even have a hard fork policy in the rules

so it's either an elaborate troll or a dope promo

Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:13 pm to
this is the kind of information that keeps me coming back to tigerdroppings
Posted by Stagliano
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:35 pm to
I stg trying to catch up in this thread its like getting roundhoused in the face by nerds

I mean that as complimentary as possible
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