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Posted on 12/25/20 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by JimMorrison
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Posted on 12/25/20 at 2:16 pm to
Please do not reply to me with conspiracy theories.

ETA: sorry, that was a little harsh. Merry Christmas.

I just think it's dangerous how many people in the XRP community are trying to shrug this lawsuit off with conspiracy theory level posts.

Weirdly fascinating how devoted they are and fine with completely losing their investment.
This post was edited on 12/25/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted by Stagliano
Member since Dec 2020
1661 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 3:50 pm to
I hate that reddit is where people seem to get most of their info on alt coins. They interpret every drop of terrible news as positive somehow. Mental gymnastics doesn't begin to describe it
Posted by tigermike2004
Member since Dec 2018
553 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 3:50 pm to
Regulations is in January! XRP will be ok! I hold more than XRP! My portfolio is doing nice! It will do better very soon! I haven't stressed because I know and have balls! I've seen the panic here and the SEC hasn't hit you yet
Posted by tigermed
Member since Nov 2007
440 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 4:13 pm to
I doubt the Ripple lawsuit will be resolved by the beginning of 2021. The question moving forward will be when exactly XRP was a security and when it became a currency. Multiple SEC enforcers have said in the past that digital assets can change back and forth between securities and commodities depending on how they are being used by Dev teams. There is US precedent of XRP being a currency by a FinCEN judgement in 2015. Also multiple G20 countries ( Japan, UK, etc) have clearly stated that they don’t consider XRP a security.

As I’ve said before this lawsuit is important for all cryptos. Not just XRP. SEC will likely come for others next depending on the outcome with Ripple.
Posted by tigermike2004
Member since Dec 2018
553 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 8:16 pm to
Agreed! They have already said they are looking into Bitcoin and Ethereum! I can say this though! The new guy that took Clayton's place is a Cryptocurrecy guy! And then Brian Brooks is also so maybe it can all stop unless it's flagrant! We all know over 2000 coins aren't doing things right
Posted by tigermed
Member since Nov 2007
440 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 8:32 pm to
They aren’t looking into Bitcoin or Ethereum. The SEC has already ruled these two as commodities.
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
5537 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 8:46 pm to
They are right about XRP.
Posted by thatguy777
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/25/20 at 9:31 pm to
You sir, are a moron. Never called anyone out like this before

ETA: Merry Christmas
This post was edited on 12/25/20 at 9:32 pm
Posted by tigermed
Member since Nov 2007
440 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 9:46 pm to
LINK

SEC also has issued a 5 year grace period for exchanges to list tokens that may be considered securities. This can lessen the risk of exchanges having XRP listed and maybe will keep it from being delisted.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82102 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 10:09 pm to
We hit $25k BTC baws
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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75703 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 10:16 pm to
ETH needs to get its butt in gear
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82102 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 10:20 pm to
Yea I'm getting smoked in the ETH/BTC ratio. Been wanting to transfer whats left of my ETH into BTC but keep telling myself to wait until Jan 1 to avoid 2020 taxes. I'm lost so much in BTC by waiting
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 10:27 pm to
It’s pretty undervalued against BTC, I know it’s been bleeding out but I think you’ll be able to gain some ground when a real alt season pops off.
That’ll require BTC to range for awhile, so it shouldn’t run away from Eth the whole time
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 10:35 pm to
I think once retail wakes up like in 2017 you’ll see people dumping money in “cheaper” stuff.


Only a guess (Hope)
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

I doubt the Ripple lawsuit will be resolved by the beginning of 2021. The question moving forward will be when exactly XRP was a security and when it became a currency.


No chance the lawsuit is resolved in January '21. It could take up to 2 years if Ripple doesn't settle.

It's not about whether or not XRP is a currency or security. The SEC is charging Ripple with using XRP as an unregistered security offering. Ripple has been acting in the same manner of issuing shares as public companies.

Ripple has been selling XRP to fund their company and to profit from the sales. That is what the SEC is going after.

If you read the filing, it's pretty damning against Ripple and XRP's use case.

Even MoneyGram announced they don't use their software or ODL. Ripple allegedly paid MoneyGram for their partnership so Ripple could tout the use case publicly. Paid them in XRP, which MoneyGram immediately dumped into the public market. Yikes.

quote:

“As a reminder, MoneyGram does not utilize the ODL platform or RippleNet for direct transfers of consumer funds – digital or otherwise.”


LINK

The XRP community says this is no big deal. Nothing to see here. (Check point 345 as well)

This post was edited on 12/25/20 at 10:50 pm
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
5537 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

Ripple has been selling XRP to fund their company and to profit from the sales. That is what the SEC is going after.


This. They are correct too.
Posted by JimMorrison
The Peninsula
Member since May 2012
20747 posts
Posted on 12/25/20 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

They are correct too.


Indeed. Ripple and XRP are so closely tied together that either one's failure will be the end. XRP could technically still exist if Ripple dissolved, but who would support it?

Ripple is a company that has allegedly been dumping on retail investors.

Ripple is trying to IPO next year. Good luck.

This post was edited on 12/25/20 at 11:56 pm
Posted by tigermike2004
Member since Dec 2018
553 posts
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:28 am to
Slap on the wrist compared to most
Posted by James11111
Walnut Creek, Ca
Member since Jul 2020
5537 posts
Posted on 12/26/20 at 2:01 am to
BTC beasting this morning.
This post was edited on 12/26/20 at 9:06 am
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82102 posts
Posted on 12/26/20 at 10:51 am to
quote:

It’s pretty undervalued against BTC, I know it’s been bleeding out but I think you’ll be able to gain some ground when a real alt season pops off.

I used to think this way but I don't think ETH ever catches up on ratio because there is no institutional money going into ETH like there is BTC. Retail investors aren't going to outpace these major funds and companies acquiring BTC.
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