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Oct. economic data may never be released

Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:05 pm
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1397 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 1:05 pm
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Key economic reports for October may not be released at all because of the government shutdown, a senior White House official said Wednesday.

With the spending impasse appearing to be near an end, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters that part of the fallout could be lasting damage to the government’s data collection ability.

“The Democrats may have permanently damaged the Federal Statistical system with October CPI and jobs reports likely never being released,” Leavitt said. “All of that economic data released will be permanently impaired, leaving our policymakers at the Fed, flying blind at a critical period.”

Release of important economic data has been at the forefront of Wall Street concerns as the shutdown dragged on for more than six weeks, the longest in history.

Among the most important releases are the monthly nonfarm payrolls count and the consumer price index, both of which come from the Labor Department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics. Other data impacted includes retail sales, import and export data as well as consumer spending and income.

Most Wall Street economists have been expecting all of the data to be released, albeit delayed. However, Leavitt’s comments cast doubt on whether that will happen.

“The Democrat shutdown made it extraordinarily difficult for economic economists investors and policy makers at the Federal Reserve to receive critical government data,” Leavitt said.

Leavitt added that the shutdown could lower fourth-quarter economic growth by up to 2 percentage points. Earlier in the afternoon, Kevin Hassett, the director of the National Economic Council, said the impasse might shave up to 1.5 percentage points from current-quarter GDP.

“For sure, it’s going to have an impact on this quarter,” Hassett said during an appearance at the Economic Club of Washington, D.C.

However, most economists expect the impact to be minimal.

Goldman Sachs, in fact, raised its estimates for GDP heading into the end of the year. The firm boosted its Q3 outlook slightly to 3.7% and raised its full-year outlook to 1.3%, a change of 0.3 percentage point.

On the issue of data collection, Goldman’s economists said they expect the shutdown to have “a limited impact” on the quality of jobs data.

As for timing, Citigroup economists on Wednesday speculated that the September nonfarm payrolls report could be released as early as Friday but more likely in the early part of next week. They said it could take until early December to put together the October count.
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Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24964 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:08 pm to
Not too concerned. This data has proven time-and-time again to not be reliable to use for decision making (i.e., revisions). There are still plenty of data available to inform wall street and the Fed.

I think this is more about politics and the Republicans wanting to continue putting the Dems on blast.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 2:09 pm
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4129 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

I think this is more about politics and the Republicans wanting to continue putting the Dems on blast.


Definitely ---Data doesn't disappear.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92391 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

Data doesn't disappear.


A million jobs disappeared under the last admin

That was data
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2938 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:56 am to
You never disappoint. I expect you to be a terrible poster and you consistently meet my expectations.

How is the job data this year?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92391 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:01 am to
Please explain how Im wrong?


quote:

How is the job data this year?


Terrible. Its why the rate cuts I told you would happen are happening

Lets see if you respond or runaway like always
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2938 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:49 am to
Revisionist history - you have been consistently wrong with your rate cut predictions. You called for 5.5 mortgages by last summer. You called for huge cuts that never happened. When were you correct? You called for rate cuts all year, then claim you are correct when we finally have a cut. You are a parrot and understand economics about as well as Trump. This is an insult, in case you still don't understand.

You need Fox TV and Truth Social to give you an opinion. What do they tell you to say today?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92391 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:41 am to
Did 1mil jobs disappear or no?

quote:

You called for huge cuts that never happened.


Huge rate cuts?

They have cut exactly i have said they would

Rates are at 5.5% or below now

I dont watch fox Tv or look at Truth

As usual you are a clown
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 9:42 am
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4129 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:16 pm to
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A million jobs disappeared under the last admin That was data



You think the solution to bad jobs data is to fire the ppl responsible for the data and don’t publish new data if it’s not favorable? Because that’s only happening now with your guy.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92391 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:48 pm to
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You think the solution to bad jobs data is to fire the ppl responsible for the data


Ummm yeah. If your numbers are off by 1mil you are not fit for that role

How about we find a better system and force buisness to be accurate
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4129 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:00 pm to
quote:

Ummm yeah. If your numbers are off by 1mil you are not fit for that role

How about we find a better system and force buisness to be accurate


There are over 165M employed adults in the US--being off by a million is equivalent to a rounding error.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92391 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

There are over 165M employed adults in the US--being off by a million is equivalent to a rounding error.


This has to be one of the dumbest things ever said.

Wow
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
797 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 12:09 am to


Let's go to a live look-in at this key economic data.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2938 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:21 am to
quote:

Did 1mil jobs disappear or no?

quote:
You called for huge cuts that never happened.



Huge rate cuts?

They have cut exactly i have said they would

Rates are at 5.5% or below now

I dont watch fox Tv or look at Truth

As usual you are a clown


You are a waste of time. And a liar. You were calling for mortgage rates to be in the 5's and were calling for full point Fed drops last summer. You should run for president.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92391 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:25 am to
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You are a waste of time.


Then stop following me around

Its very simple. Go cry about someone else
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2938 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:32 am to
Lol. You think way too much of yourself to think I follow you around. I post on things of interest to me on the financial board. You show up in some for reasons unknown because you don't understand investing. My guess is you post from the couch in your mom's house.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92391 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 9:07 am to
I post and your bat signal goes off

Just dont respond to me
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