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need direction on a life insurance plan. who has the best coverage?

Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7952 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:36 pm
ive been slacking on this subject for far too long and need to get off my arse and make sure my family is protected. That being said i have no clue how to go about getting a policy. who's the best agency to go with right now. Im 28 with a mortgage, wife, and baby self employed in perfect health and i work in the fitness industry.

TIA
Posted by Jblac15
Member since Mar 2011
687 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:47 pm to
Dave Ramsey ELP for Term Life

Was shopping around for this yesterday...
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84976 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:57 pm to
There have been a few threads on this this year. Do a search. There are a couple posters who know what they're talking about.

ETA: GoCrazyAuburn Helps
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 1:59 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34878 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 3:37 pm to
Best to go with is hard to answer.

Are you just looking for the cheapest policy to gain the most death benefit? If that is the case, zander or any of those type sites will be able to run some preliminary quotes of the really cheap term policies, however they may not be with the best companies. Not that they are bad, per say, they just may have solvency issues, less benefits, etc. I would gladly pay some extra premium for a term policy if it has the disability waiver of premium benefit that would convert my term policy to permanent if I become disabled, and I wouldn't have to pay the premium.

Ell linked a good thread that goes into some pro's and con's of WL vs Term. As I always say, death benefit number is most important.

ETA: Here is another thread that goes into i more. LINK
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 4:02 pm to
Curious...what do you think are the best companies? Northwestern, NYL?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34878 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 4:03 pm to
For what type of policy?

ETA: also depends on how you want to define best. If we are talking claims paid to policyholders, yea those two are up there. We could talk about financial strength ratings, expense ratios, lapse rate, mortality rate. There are a bunch of different factors looking at just the company alone.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 4:08 pm
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:30 pm to
Term 80

65 to Life

Disability

All with NWM
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7721 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:53 pm to
I shopped through zander insurance online,

Came out with 500,000 20 yr term, 32 years old, 400 dollars a year

I was happy with process
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34878 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:13 pm to
As far as the WL, NML is always one I recommend, as it is one of te best performing policies. For the most part, term is term. I assume you got the disability waiver benefit? That is something that separates theirs from others.

Their disability is very strong as well. Contractual language is very favorable.

Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34878 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:14 pm to
Where did you get the $500K number?
Posted by Jblac15
Member since Mar 2011
687 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:23 pm to
10x your annual salary is what is recommended.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34878 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:50 pm to
That's a very basic recommendation to avoid doing any individualized planning.

Point being, I have plenty of clients who are making over $100K that don't need over $1M of insurance.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:11 pm to
Thanks bro appreciate the insight
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84976 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 7:42 am to
I actually went with a higher amount because I'm so young. We're in the first 5 years of a 30 year mortgage (even though it's just a starter). I've got a newborn who may or may not go to private school and who knows about a second child. Then there is cost of living, daycare (my wife isn't working at this time). Plus, we're in the top tier health-wise so we could get a high DB for cheap. Finally, we plan to convert some to whole once my wife goes back to work and we feel comfortable adding that expense. Mine is about 13x my salary and I also have 200k on my wife who's not working.

Point being, so much of these decisions depend on upon each situation. Very few generalizations are relevant.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34878 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 8:20 am to
Exactly. The 10x salary number is nice, but is far from an actual accurate death benefit calculation.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6546 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 8:25 am to
The best life insurance policy is the one that pays.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34878 posts
Posted on 4/25/14 at 9:28 am to
Ding ding ding we have a winner.
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