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need advice setting up a 401k for small business

Posted on 7/30/24 at 12:37 pm
Posted by JDifuplease
Southshore
Member since Nov 2012
52 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 12:37 pm
own a small business and CPA is advising I set one up for the business to contribute to wife and I 401k and employees.

I have talked to two financial advisors re this and just wanted to explore more options. Has anyone walked down this path and if so what FA did you use...I'm on the Northshore.

TIA
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4264 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 12:51 pm to
Contact Fidelity,they set up 401-K’s for small business.Schwab might also.
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
5799 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 1:02 pm to
Checkout Guideline 401k. Very cheap and easy to setup. low AUM % as well (0.15 I believe)
Posted by JDifuplease
Southshore
Member since Nov 2012
52 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

Contact Fidelity,they set up 401-K’s for small business.Schwab might also.


thanks, i have, they require minimum 25 employees?? maybe it was more, and we only have 4 that will contribute.
Posted by JDifuplease
Southshore
Member since Nov 2012
52 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

Checkout Guideline 401k. Very cheap and easy to setup. low AUM % as well (0.15 I believe)
will do thanks
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22408 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 3:04 pm to
Schwab requires 25?

Are you an LLC, S-Corp, or what?

I'm assuming your CPA has ran the math and provided you with the correct information on a 401-k making sense over a SEP-IRA or Solo?
Posted by tigerrocket
Member since Aug 2008
163 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 3:28 pm to
Don't think he'd be eligible for solo, because he has employees, and with a SEP, he would have to contribute the same % to all eligible employees (might get expensive). I would think maybe a SIMPLE if he wants to keep costs down.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22408 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 4:25 pm to
quote:


Don't think he'd be eligible for solo, because he has employees, and with a SEP, he would have to contribute the same % to all eligible employees (might get expensive). I would think maybe a SIMPLE if he wants to keep costs down.


You are correct, I meant SImple over Solo. But needless to say I just wanted to make sure his CPA knew what he was talking about and didn't just throw out "you should start a 401k or something to do some pre tax retirement".

I just wanted OP to make sure he knew he may have other options.
Posted by MiseEnPlace
Member since Jul 2024
2 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 5:49 pm to
Funny enough, I was just coming to TD to create an account to ask about 401k options. I’m researching alternatives to my company’s current plan, which basically only offers a bunch of target date retirement funds. I was told by our plan administrator that getting access to low expense ratio funds to index the S&P 500 would require a shift from the platform we currently have with American Funds to something more expensive from American Funds or someone else.

I have personal accounts with Vanguard and Fidelity, but I have no idea what “good” rates for a 60-person company look like.
Posted by GeauxBlonde
Member since Feb 2013
181 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 8:55 pm to
A small company I was with, fewer than 6 employees, used a company called Human Interest to provide a 401k to employees, might be worth checking out. As an employee, I didn't have any issues with it.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22408 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:21 am to
A lot of the 401k options in regards to funds for the employees to purchase are terrible with very high fees.

Vanguard is one of the better options.

I honestly don't understand why they have such high fees outside of just because they can and employers/ HR/ GM's are not smart enough to shop around?

ETA: One of my suggestions to the OP was to search not just by the cheapest but also the fund cost and options.
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 9:22 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31951 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:25 am to
Ask for a SIMPLE IRA, which works like a 401K for small businesses.
Posted by WilsonPickett
St Amant, LA
Member since Oct 2009
1677 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:30 pm to
We used a simple for years but just switched to a 401k for our company (28 employees). We switched because we turned 50 and max annual is $30,500 this year with 401K, and it’s $19,500 with a Simple. But if that doesn’t matter to him then I’d go Simple. It’s easier to deal with. All of ours is thru our Edward Jones office 401K has a lot more rules and regs and can be a pain in the rear.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
10324 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 6:19 pm to
American Funds is a great platform as well, especially if you want employees to have access to an actual FA
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
10324 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 6:21 pm to
While not a fan of this:

quote:

Edward Jones office


I'm a BIG fan of this. Will save you significant hastle and $

quote:

SEP
This post was edited on 8/1/24 at 6:22 pm
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