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Monthly payment more at bank then when I run numbers through amortization *UPDATED*

Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:20 pm
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30887 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:20 pm
$38,000, 5.25%, 15 years.

Amortization calculator says = $305.47

Bank says monthly payment = $320.75

Can someone explain the difference between the two?

**ETA: The bank monthly figure was the amount if I went up to the amount approved for the loan. Thanks for the various inputs.
This post was edited on 4/25/18 at 2:32 pm
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53151 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:28 pm to
And then?
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3147 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 9:30 pm to
Did they roll some fees into the loan?
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:14 pm to
This happened to me once and they rolled an extended warranty into the auto loan without telling me. I’d check their numbers before I sign anything.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6184 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:21 pm to
Your numbers are right. They probably snuck in some sort of monthly fee or insurance that you didn’t realize you agreed to. I recently too out a small loan and they tried to tack on $25/month for loan insurance. If I hadn’t ran the numbers before and known what my actual monthly payment would be, I would never have known.
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1539 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:08 am to
Anyone know of a good amortization app to use when sitting in a dealership and negotiating price? That way you can catch it instantaneously.

Thanks
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:29 am to
When’s you first payment due? Could be increasing the actual balance prior to payment.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6184 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:37 am to
quicken's app is what i use.
Posted by Hand
far side of the moon
Member since Dec 2007
2064 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 8:52 am to
Most likely, it's because of a different interest accrual method. Most online calculators use the simplest 360/360 calculation (which is funny because it's a hold over from the days before computers). The method the bank is using is in your disclosures. Very high probability the bank using Actual/365 or Actual/360. My guess is the bank is using Actual/360.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6184 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 9:10 am to
So he has a 5% increase in his payment because of this? Not likely. I’ve used apps and online calculators and have been within a penny on multiple loans through multiple banks.

If his monthly payment (this month and going forward) is that much higher, they snuck something in. If it’s just the first month, it’s likely the extra interest (longer period) from when the loan started until the first payment.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 10:55 am to
May I suggest calling the bank?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/25/18 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

May I suggest calling the bank?


This is often a good place to start. They know all the terms of the contract, nobody on TD does.
Posted by randybobandy
NOLA
Member since Mar 2015
1908 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:01 pm to
Credit life ins added to your note. Sneaky bankers do it a lot. I used to be a sneaky banker.
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