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Posted on 10/22/09 at 5:21 pm
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/22/09 at 5:21 pm
I know this isn't technically money talk, but I didn't know where to go with this.

I've been put in charge of choosing and implementing a project management system and the default choice is microsoft project. The main alternatives are Kickstart and Mindview, but they are open to anything I bring to them.

Do any of you have any advice on which way I should go or tips and pointers about the systems?

Thanks,

THF
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 5:57 pm to
The biggest argument in favor of Project IMO is that it's so ubiquitous everyone knows how to use it, it isn't all that hard to pick up the basics, and it's relatively easy to get questions answered (big user community, training is everywhere, etc.).

And yes, it costs extra. A lot of enterprises already have an MSDN license that might cover a small PM team though.

Some other system may be fine if the PM team is small and expected to have low turnover. For better or worse though it's hard to go wrong with Project, this should be the default choice unless there's a compelling reason to use something else.

Unfortunately I can't help you much with Kickstart/Mindview, I have no experience with them. If nobody else does either that may answer your question. Microsoft has pretty much assimilated the PM world at this point.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 6:49 pm to
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The biggest argument in favor of Project IMO is that it's so ubiquitous everyone knows how to use it


I've actually never even heard of it!
Posted by wizard of smart
Member since Feb 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 7:15 pm to
I've used SureTrak and Primavera at LSU. Both similar but I think I liked Primavera more although we got more in depth with SureTrak. I know there were some construction estimating competitions that used Timberline, but I never was in the CM club more than a semester or two, much less ever signed up to be a part of an estimating competition.

I know that doesn't say much but I would do a google search to see if there are any reviews of different softwares. I do know they cost a bunch so it's definitely a big decision to make.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 7:46 pm to
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I've actually never even heard of it!


Yeah, it's made by this new company called Microsoft. They make stuff for computers and shite.
Posted by datdude3384
Member since Sep 2007
249 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 7:56 pm to
What area of buisiness will you use it? I thought you were IA?
Posted by datdude3384
Member since Sep 2007
249 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 8:17 pm to
NM, econ dev
Posted by WooPig5
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2006
363 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 10:01 pm to
MS Project is the way to go. Primavera is strong in the construction industry, and Deltek (Open Plan) and Artemis are often used on high end DOD\DOE, and utility projects.

No one gets fired for using MSP. Lots of people know it, and you can pick up the basics on your own. As long as you're not doing high end resource management in your project, MSP will get it done.

Good luck.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27828 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 11:11 pm to
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I've actually never even heard of it!


Do you not use any of this software?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/22/09 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

No one gets fired for using MSP.


This is the correct answer.

I'm not saying MS Project is the best choice - I'm saying that if you're seriously considering a different choice you need to consult better sources than TD, who really know their shite.

Or just say "frick it, I'm going with the worldwide standard". Sometimes that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 9:04 am to
quote:

Do you not use any of this software?


I use Office a lot at work, but I don't think we have this. At home I have linux.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 9:24 am to
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I use Office a lot at work, but I don't think we have this. At home I have linux.


I think he was referring to project management software, not office.

Project isn't one of the standard (word, excel, pp) features in office.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 9:29 am to
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No one gets fired for using MSP.


This sounds like exactly what I need. That's an awful powerful quote.

quote:

I'm not saying MS Project is the best choice - I'm saying that if you're seriously considering a different choice you need to consult better sources than TD, who really know their shite.


This isn't my only source, this is just for talking points before I meet with my source. I didn't know what MSP was a week ago.

quote:

Or just say "frick it, I'm going with the worldwide standard". Sometimes that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.


I'm not going to use that approach because I was brought on to actually research it, but that's why I made it my null hypothesis.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 10:10 am to
quote:

I think he was referring to project management software


I don't even know what project management software is. Is that something that lazy Gen Y'ers need in order to organize themselves for simple tasks?
This post was edited on 10/23/09 at 10:20 am
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 10:45 am to
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31158 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 10:50 am to
I've been doing large scale IT program management for almost 8 years and all I've ever used is excel or word.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 11:52 am to
quote:

I've been doing large scale IT program management for almost 8 years and all I've ever used is excel or word.


You're probably Gen X, though, and thus not an incredible pussy with a sense of entitlement.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 12:27 pm to
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JerseyTiger


Get off my nuts. My boss asked me to do this. He's a man. He's FORTY.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Get off my nuts. My boss asked me to do this. He's a man. He's FORTY.




Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 10/23/09 at 1:28 pm to
The ridiculous size of that picture really makes it.

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