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Meta Platforms (Facebook) Discussion
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:23 pm
Getting crushed after earnings despite rock bottom expectations. Earnings really weren’t bad, and forward guide on expenses came in on the lower end, but it doesn’t seem to matter. My belief in the long term value of this company is pretty well documented in threads on here throughout the past year, but dear God has it been an abject disaster of a year for the stock.
Currently trading at a forward PE of 12, it’s down to levels it hasn’t seen since 2016. It’s down over 70% from its all time high. It’s lost more than 2 Nvidias in 14 months.
More than 50% of the entire word uses their products each month - more than 1/3 of the world uses them every day.
For better or worse, I’ll be picking up some more shares tomorrow, hopefully sub $110 if I can get them.
ETA- by my math, Meta has wiped out nearly $750B in market cap. I believe less than 10 companies in the world have ever even reached $750B in market cap.
Currently trading at a forward PE of 12, it’s down to levels it hasn’t seen since 2016. It’s down over 70% from its all time high. It’s lost more than 2 Nvidias in 14 months.
More than 50% of the entire word uses their products each month - more than 1/3 of the world uses them every day.
For better or worse, I’ll be picking up some more shares tomorrow, hopefully sub $110 if I can get them.
ETA- by my math, Meta has wiped out nearly $750B in market cap. I believe less than 10 companies in the world have ever even reached $750B in market cap.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:40 pm to slackster
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Meta has repurchased $42BN of stock in the past 12 months at an average price of $300. It is now trading at $112
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:43 pm to LSUcam7
They still have another $17B authorized for stock repurchases. I’d imagine they’ll put that to work soon at sub $110.
With that $17B, they’ll have bought back nearly $60B - over 20% of their current market cap
With that $17B, they’ll have bought back nearly $60B - over 20% of their current market cap
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:49 pm to slackster
Bro every tech stock is going to do this
There’s not that much money in showing us pop ups for things we don’t want and they all brag about expanding to other countries but most other countries in the world trade like clam shells instead of money
It’s gonna happen to Amazon too. They shipped a $2 pack of guitar picks to my house for free. Everybody does that to them.
How many stocks have to crash before y’all realize the American “tech” economy is fake and bring back the factories so us millenials can finally have fun fulfilling jobs
There’s not that much money in showing us pop ups for things we don’t want and they all brag about expanding to other countries but most other countries in the world trade like clam shells instead of money
It’s gonna happen to Amazon too. They shipped a $2 pack of guitar picks to my house for free. Everybody does that to them.
How many stocks have to crash before y’all realize the American “tech” economy is fake and bring back the factories so us millenials can finally have fun fulfilling jobs
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:58 pm to slackster
I’m very shocked to see Meta going down this low. I guess this is the cost of getting politically involved.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:01 pm to LSUcam7
Can’t believe the repurchases. Woof. That is just brutal. Zuck needs to go.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:06 pm to slackster
Why Facebook & Instagram Have Been Failing
The Metaverse is a Soulless platform
The Metaverse is a Soulless platform
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:10 pm to slackster
Zuck literally destroying his company chasing a stupid trend nobody wants
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:11 pm to slackster
quote:Money just doesn’t disappear, it’s going somewhere. Put options and shorts?
Meta has wiped out nearly $750B in market cap
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:21 pm to slackster
Last time I looked it was showing $105.50 in after hour trading
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:26 pm to bass
quote:
I’m very shocked to see Meta going down this low. I guess this is the cost of getting politically involved.
Has virtually nothing to do with their politics.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:29 pm to HighlyFavoredTiger
quote:
Last time I looked it was showing $105.50 in after hour trading
Yeah everyone is heading to the exits.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:32 pm to slackster
Amazon, Google - DOWN 40% from ATHs and crashing to new lower lows. MSFT DOWN 35% from ATHs and crashing. APPLE DOWN and going lower and lower.
All still making billions in cash but suddenly worthless junk.
All still making billions in cash but suddenly worthless junk.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:34 pm to slackster
quote:well they’re still liberal as frick so there’s that
Has virtually nothing to do with their politics.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:36 pm to PUB
Amzn , appl will be down again tommorrow after earnings but even with Goog, MSFT,Appl down they are still long term holds. Meta i'm not touching that one
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:41 pm to slackster
Is FB/Meta going the way of Second Life? What’s the difference besides a clunky headset?
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:50 pm to slackster
It was a dumb move to go all in on the metaverse. If he was smart he would have kept that shite as a separate company but now the entire business is called meta platforms. Apple is gonna be bad tomorrow as well I would presume.
ETA: FB is also getting boat raced by tiktok.
ETA: FB is also getting boat raced by tiktok.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:02 pm to Triple Bogey
Never thought fb:meta would get close to dropping under my cost basis, but I’m still completely in long term. The metaverse stuff (personally I think it’s dumb), is coinciding with a terrible decline in economy/advertising/bad rep. Company has close to no debt and makes billions- find me another one at this p/e.. is my stance. Please talk me out of it if you can
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:09 pm to rocksteady
Everybody hates me on here so take it with a grain of salt:
1. Facebook has always been "dead". If you woulda asked me at fb ipo if you should buy I probably would've told you that facebook was already dead in 2011 or whatever. The old folks were already on it then and it lost it's first mover advantage. Im sure the old folks were monetizable which was a novel concept for an internet company and probably kept them afloat for a while.
Then they bought instagram but over monetized it and let all the old people which made it not cool and when you think about it instagram is a redundant market which brings us to our next point:
2. We know advertisements aren't where these technology companies make their money. They're free because "you are the product" which means they harvest data on you and sell it. The problem is there is no bigger buyer of the data. All the big tech companies already have all their own data on you so who can meta sell to. Essentially they have to use it in house to sell ads which isn't super profitable I suppose. On the one hand that's not a big deal if they're not having to pay and they can just live off the ad money but they have this huge metaverse cash burn
3. Social media culture and larger internet culture is going down the drain bro. It's all been paywalled so the wonder of it is gone. One of the bigger internet statements these days is "touch grass" which means go outside, usually used as an insult.
There's no more "digital journal" version of the internet like there was pre 2010 or so where you would share your life on the internet, the reason for this being that anything you put up is offensive to somebody
nowadays we're in the "look at me" internet where everyone is trying to monetize themselves by presenting a facade. The only places with real discourse now are anonymous forums and the boomernet which is like wbrz fb comments and whatnot. Even if you could make a popup to sell something to boomers they wouldn't be able to figure out how to buy it
4. Social in general is gone bro. people don't make friends anymore. It is what it is. Maybe that's covids fault but I think what really happened is these social media companies cannibalized themselves by being too successful initially.
When everybody is looking at their phones to see what their friends are doing on facebook, after a few years they run out of new friends to add on facebook
The non anonymous internet has become the lowest common denominator which probably isn't all that monetizable in the first place
I think meta hits 40 in the next year, long term I see it sinking to the level of snapchat
I think Google will fare a little better but I still wouldn't make it a long term investment. Eventually all these companies will end up with the taxpayer being their main source of income and I see google being able to do that a lot better with some sort of cyber warfare angle
ETA: Yall wanna know what I think about apple?
1. Facebook has always been "dead". If you woulda asked me at fb ipo if you should buy I probably would've told you that facebook was already dead in 2011 or whatever. The old folks were already on it then and it lost it's first mover advantage. Im sure the old folks were monetizable which was a novel concept for an internet company and probably kept them afloat for a while.
Then they bought instagram but over monetized it and let all the old people which made it not cool and when you think about it instagram is a redundant market which brings us to our next point:
2. We know advertisements aren't where these technology companies make their money. They're free because "you are the product" which means they harvest data on you and sell it. The problem is there is no bigger buyer of the data. All the big tech companies already have all their own data on you so who can meta sell to. Essentially they have to use it in house to sell ads which isn't super profitable I suppose. On the one hand that's not a big deal if they're not having to pay and they can just live off the ad money but they have this huge metaverse cash burn
3. Social media culture and larger internet culture is going down the drain bro. It's all been paywalled so the wonder of it is gone. One of the bigger internet statements these days is "touch grass" which means go outside, usually used as an insult.
There's no more "digital journal" version of the internet like there was pre 2010 or so where you would share your life on the internet, the reason for this being that anything you put up is offensive to somebody
nowadays we're in the "look at me" internet where everyone is trying to monetize themselves by presenting a facade. The only places with real discourse now are anonymous forums and the boomernet which is like wbrz fb comments and whatnot. Even if you could make a popup to sell something to boomers they wouldn't be able to figure out how to buy it
4. Social in general is gone bro. people don't make friends anymore. It is what it is. Maybe that's covids fault but I think what really happened is these social media companies cannibalized themselves by being too successful initially.
When everybody is looking at their phones to see what their friends are doing on facebook, after a few years they run out of new friends to add on facebook
The non anonymous internet has become the lowest common denominator which probably isn't all that monetizable in the first place
I think meta hits 40 in the next year, long term I see it sinking to the level of snapchat
I think Google will fare a little better but I still wouldn't make it a long term investment. Eventually all these companies will end up with the taxpayer being their main source of income and I see google being able to do that a lot better with some sort of cyber warfare angle
ETA: Yall wanna know what I think about apple?
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 8:14 pm
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