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Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:23 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:23 pm
Getting crushed after earnings despite rock bottom expectations. Earnings really weren’t bad, and forward guide on expenses came in on the lower end, but it doesn’t seem to matter. My belief in the long term value of this company is pretty well documented in threads on here throughout the past year, but dear God has it been an abject disaster of a year for the stock.

Currently trading at a forward PE of 12, it’s down to levels it hasn’t seen since 2016. It’s down over 70% from its all time high. It’s lost more than 2 Nvidias in 14 months.

More than 50% of the entire word uses their products each month - more than 1/3 of the world uses them every day.

For better or worse, I’ll be picking up some more shares tomorrow, hopefully sub $110 if I can get them.


ETA- by my math, Meta has wiped out nearly $750B in market cap. I believe less than 10 companies in the world have ever even reached $750B in market cap.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 4:42 pm
Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
7900 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:40 pm to
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Meta has repurchased $42BN of stock in the past 12 months at an average price of $300. It is now trading at $112


Posted by LSUcam7
FL
Member since Sep 2016
7900 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:43 pm to
They still have another $17B authorized for stock repurchases. I’d imagine they’ll put that to work soon at sub $110.

With that $17B, they’ll have bought back nearly $60B - over 20% of their current market cap
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 4:45 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52908 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:49 pm to
Bro every tech stock is going to do this

There’s not that much money in showing us pop ups for things we don’t want and they all brag about expanding to other countries but most other countries in the world trade like clam shells instead of money

It’s gonna happen to Amazon too. They shipped a $2 pack of guitar picks to my house for free. Everybody does that to them.

How many stocks have to crash before y’all realize the American “tech” economy is fake and bring back the factories so us millenials can finally have fun fulfilling jobs
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
3837 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 4:58 pm to
I’m very shocked to see Meta going down this low. I guess this is the cost of getting politically involved.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7624 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:01 pm to
Can’t believe the repurchases. Woof. That is just brutal. Zuck needs to go.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12948 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21856 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:10 pm to
Zuck literally destroying his company chasing a stupid trend nobody wants
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
3837 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:11 pm to
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Meta has wiped out nearly $750B in market cap
Money just doesn’t disappear, it’s going somewhere. Put options and shorts?
Posted by HighlyFavoredTiger
TexLaArk
Member since Jun 2018
876 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:21 pm to
Last time I looked it was showing $105.50 in after hour trading
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

I’m very shocked to see Meta going down this low. I guess this is the cost of getting politically involved.


Has virtually nothing to do with their politics.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:29 pm to
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Last time I looked it was showing $105.50 in after hour trading


Yeah everyone is heading to the exits.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18097 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:32 pm to
Amazon, Google - DOWN 40% from ATHs and crashing to new lower lows. MSFT DOWN 35% from ATHs and crashing. APPLE DOWN and going lower and lower.
All still making billions in cash but suddenly worthless junk.
Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
3837 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:34 pm to
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Has virtually nothing to do with their politics.
well they’re still liberal as frick so there’s that
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14438 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:36 pm to
Amzn , appl will be down again tommorrow after earnings but even with Goog, MSFT,Appl down they are still long term holds. Meta i'm not touching that one
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32856 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:41 pm to
Is FB/Meta going the way of Second Life? What’s the difference besides a clunky headset?
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
5974 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:50 pm to
It was a dumb move to go all in on the metaverse. If he was smart he would have kept that shite as a separate company but now the entire business is called meta platforms. Apple is gonna be bad tomorrow as well I would presume.

ETA: FB is also getting boat raced by tiktok.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 6:51 pm
Posted by rocksteady
Member since Sep 2013
1279 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:02 pm to
Never thought fb:meta would get close to dropping under my cost basis, but I’m still completely in long term. The metaverse stuff (personally I think it’s dumb), is coinciding with a terrible decline in economy/advertising/bad rep. Company has close to no debt and makes billions- find me another one at this p/e.. is my stance. Please talk me out of it if you can
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52908 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:09 pm to
Everybody hates me on here so take it with a grain of salt:

1. Facebook has always been "dead". If you woulda asked me at fb ipo if you should buy I probably would've told you that facebook was already dead in 2011 or whatever. The old folks were already on it then and it lost it's first mover advantage. Im sure the old folks were monetizable which was a novel concept for an internet company and probably kept them afloat for a while.

Then they bought instagram but over monetized it and let all the old people which made it not cool and when you think about it instagram is a redundant market which brings us to our next point:

2. We know advertisements aren't where these technology companies make their money. They're free because "you are the product" which means they harvest data on you and sell it. The problem is there is no bigger buyer of the data. All the big tech companies already have all their own data on you so who can meta sell to. Essentially they have to use it in house to sell ads which isn't super profitable I suppose. On the one hand that's not a big deal if they're not having to pay and they can just live off the ad money but they have this huge metaverse cash burn

3. Social media culture and larger internet culture is going down the drain bro. It's all been paywalled so the wonder of it is gone. One of the bigger internet statements these days is "touch grass" which means go outside, usually used as an insult.

There's no more "digital journal" version of the internet like there was pre 2010 or so where you would share your life on the internet, the reason for this being that anything you put up is offensive to somebody

nowadays we're in the "look at me" internet where everyone is trying to monetize themselves by presenting a facade. The only places with real discourse now are anonymous forums and the boomernet which is like wbrz fb comments and whatnot. Even if you could make a popup to sell something to boomers they wouldn't be able to figure out how to buy it

4. Social in general is gone bro. people don't make friends anymore. It is what it is. Maybe that's covids fault but I think what really happened is these social media companies cannibalized themselves by being too successful initially.

When everybody is looking at their phones to see what their friends are doing on facebook, after a few years they run out of new friends to add on facebook

The non anonymous internet has become the lowest common denominator which probably isn't all that monetizable in the first place



I think meta hits 40 in the next year, long term I see it sinking to the level of snapchat

I think Google will fare a little better but I still wouldn't make it a long term investment. Eventually all these companies will end up with the taxpayer being their main source of income and I see google being able to do that a lot better with some sort of cyber warfare angle


ETA: Yall wanna know what I think about apple?
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 8:14 pm
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