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baroqen
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Any recommendations on who to take FIN 701 with? I have read many mixed opinions on Vines. Has anyone taken the course or heard anything about FIN 701 with Sung Kim?


Choi for FIN 701. Daewong Choi aka Joey Choi. I'm currently taking the class, and FIN is not going to be easy no matter what, but Choi's class are basically two huge powerpoints (with notes) per week and then extensive "problem sets" which are basically practice exams AND THEY ARE VERY GOOD PRACTICE. They're big, time consuming, but if you can get 100% on your practice exams without looking at your notes, you should be able to get an A on the actual exams. NO TRICKS, everything is very straightforward.

There are 5 discussion posts (200 word min), 2 case analyses (500 word min, but expect to write about 1000), and 3 exams covering 2 modules each for a total of SIX modules.

Yes, I said 6 modules. The last module spans almost 2 weeks and will probably be a bear, but it also means you can potentially finish in a week if you want to push yourself (or have a lot of free time).

Keep in mind, I am not saying the class is a cakewalk. It is a LOT OF WORK, but he truly gives you all the tools you actually need to succeed without any tricks. He has a Q&A board that is busier than even your typical assignment discussion board, there are tons of questions and he's highly responsive. No one is going to just hand you an A, but if you put in the effort in this class, you should be able to get one.

Since people are registering now, I'll write a detailed review on both Choi (well, I guess this is pretty detailed already) and Huang as soon as I get a chance, but I highly recommend both of them for FIN 701 and ACCT 701 respectively.


AN0NYMOUS
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Thanks for the extra info. Sounds like I should take the gamble and go with Koksal for MKT 701 then. Other option would be Khan.


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Does anyone have a syllabus for Ambrosia Acct 701?

Lsuflyfisher @ gmail.com


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Agree 100% baroquen. I am in FIN with Choi as well, and I like the class structure a lot. You have to learn and know the material, but the test isn't going to try and trick you- very straightforward.


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mpina3
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Thanks for the info! I am thinking about taking Choi for FIN 701 for Summer AP2, and wondering if I should pair that with ACCT 701 with Yin, Yuan. I have ZERO finance/acct. knowledge and I'm wondering if this is going to be way too challenging to do these two together? Also, were Choi's exam open book?


mpina3
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Thanks! I have zero acct/finance knowledge and I'm wondering if I should pair ACCT 701 (Yin) with FIN 701 (Choi) for Summer AP2. Any thoughts on this? Is this a death sentence or manageable?


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BTX722
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Choi’s exams are closed book but you get to use a notecard with handwritten formulas.


Mizzou_Hoss
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Anyone have any insight or input about the following professors

Fassil Fanta Econ 705
Ahmet Koksal mkt 701
Sung Kim fin 701
Kenneth Kungu madm 701


SATNIGHTS
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I have heard good things about MADM with Kungu.


SATNIGHTS
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ISDS 720 - Requires a group project. You have the opportunity to take the Green Belt six sigma at a discounted rate though so I am considering it.
Acct 701 - Thinking of switching from Ambrosia to Yin. Thoughts?


vasukv
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How about this combination for Summar'19 AP1 - Please review for your suggestions.
FIN 701 - Vines
ISDS 705 - Lind

Thanks, Vasu.


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vasukv
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Very good and useful feedback. Thank you.! As I'm in the 4th week, feel the same - But the current assignment feedback is very difficult to catch up, so whatever improvements are done, nothing much useful so far. The weekly exams are a bit tricky, otherwise, they are not straightforward sure.


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Vijayar
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Yin is good just follow her notes and the workout the problems she attaches at the end


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Vijayar
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Thanks Cottonseed. You seem to be fairly answering everyone's questions. Sorry if i am bothering you all I am doing Acct 701 with yin and doing well in it. Taking ECON 705 - Fawaz Fadi, ISDS 702 - Kokhsal Ahmet, ISDS 710 Darrat Mohamad, MADM 701 - Kungu kenneth, MADM 760 - Erin Mclaughlin. Your experiences with any of these profs and helpful hints how to prepare for the class. Thanks and appreciate your help.


baroqen
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FIN 701 – Choi

In one phrase – “Finance for Dummies”

Difficulty – 3

Comments – Finance is tough. It’s boring, there are a ton of numbers and weird theories, and no one really likes it. That said, Choi does a decent job of forcibly drilling a bit of Finance knowledge into your brain. I’m actually only halfway through the class as I write this and have already used some of the information I’ve learned. The class consists of reading 2 extensive PowerPoints a week, 5 weekly discussion posts that requires you to dig into one of the course topics in more detail (200 word min), 2 sizeable case analyses (500 word min, but you’ll probably MUCH more), and 3 closed-book (Half page notecard allowed for formulas only), Proctorio exams covering two modules each. There is a HIGHLY active Q&A board and he’s extremely responsive. You get a “problem set” each week for practice that you don’t actually have to do or turn in. DO NOT SKIP THESE. They’re essentially practice exams and the vast majority of the test will come directly from the problem sets. They’re big and time consuming, but very good practice. If you didn’t catch it earlier, I said there are 3 exams covering 2 modules each. This was not a typo. The class is 6 modules with the last module spanning the last two weeks. It will probably be a bear, but at the same time it also means you could potentially finish a week earlier if you want to push yourself. That’s not to say that the class is easy, the very first thing I said is that Finance is tough. However, if you do the work and put in the time, you should be able to earn yourself an A. One final note… it’s pretty archaic but all the math is done on financial calculators NOT Excel… TI BAII Plus is recommended. At this point, it’s practically Jurassic to use a calculator so that’s a bit odd and something to keep in mind.

“A” Strategy – Choi gives you ALL of the tools you need to earn an A. The class is extremely straightforward with no tricks (unlike some other professors). There is literally an easy, albeit time-consuming “A” strategy and that is to do the problem sets as many times as you need to until you basically can get them 100% without your notes. He gives you a separate file with the answers and how to solve them so you can check. Also check the Q&A board for any problems you have issues with or ask on the boards. He’s highly responsive with how to solve the any question. He isn’t going to just hand you an A, but if you really put in the time and effort it is straightforward to earn one.

Time Commitment – 15-30 hours/week. Honestly, this one really has the potential to be a real bear for some. Others may be gifted enough to handle the material easily so there’s going to be a huge range in time required. The two case analyses are time consuming due to the amount of research involved, don’t be misled by the “500 word minimum”.


ACCT 701 - Huang

In one phrase – “Accounting Lite”

Difficulty – 2.5

Comments – Huang has a great class. She seems really nice and encourages students to email the coaches or even contact her directly with questions (Unlike Yuan who really doesn’t want you to contact her). The class itself is also highly condensed with a lot of knowledge without a massive time commitment. It’s not General Accounting, it’s a more focused Accounting class that teaches skills that will be useful to future business leaders. That’s not to say the class is easy, but it’s not as intimidating as most people expect it to be. It’s theory oriented and focuses on teaching you the ins and outs of financial statements. Math nerds might be a bit disappointed. Huang provides multiple methods for learning, text, PowerPoints, course lectures, and videos, along with Zoom sessions. Once again, this may sound intimidating but you only NEED the PowerPoints. She provides an array of learning methods because different people learn differently. I recommend just using her PowerPoints and listening to the course lectures, although you could technically stick with just one. The class consists of a 6 weekly, open notes, Proctorio “Homework” assignments where you get two chances WITH REVIEW BETWEEN ATTEMPTS. Like I said, she isn’t trying to be punitive, she’s giving you the tools to learn and succeed. You also have 6 weekly, closed-notes, Proctorio quizzes. The questions are on the identical material as the homework, although reconstructed to marginally different. If you know the homework material, you will know the quiz material. No tricks. There’s also a solo project on the final week. I haven’t gotten to it yet, but I understand that it will probably be something like a paper where you have to “read” a financial statement. It might be difficult, but seems like it would be more interesting than another test or final. Being able to properly read a financial statement will also have more “real world” value than taking another test. Even people who won’t be future business leaders may find the skills useful for looking at financial statements of future investment prospects. The only drawback I felt in the class so far is that she has a very strong accent and some people may have difficulty understanding her. Fortunately, you can turn on relatively accurate CC for the videos.

“A” Strategy – Watch the course lectures. It’s based on the PowerPoint so you don’t really need to do both. However, PRINT the PowerPoint and follow along and add notes as desired. Then, use the PowerPoint and notes during your homework assignment. If you don’t get 100%, study what you got wrong and do it again. Even if you got a 85% and you’re satisfied with that, DO THE HOMEWORK AGAIN. The questions are identical between attempts (except for the order of the answers), so doing it again is mainly for practice and the fact that you should be able to get a 100 the second time around (barring careless mistakes). You can study again, but if you did well on the second attempt and understood it all, I would just take the quiz immediately after. The pre-test procedures will probably take you longer than the quiz.

Time Commitment – 8 – 10 hours. No BS to sift through, it’s very straightforward and direct knowledge and skill building.
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baroqen
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Since it's that time again (registration), and I'm in the final half of my final session... I posted reviews of my current two classes. I'm following with a copy of my previous reviews as well to help those currently trying to register or plan. This is probably the last time I'll post every review at once.

Without further ado:

Econ 705 – Shaughnessy

In one phrase – “The Gold Standard of Professors in the program.”

Difficulty (out of 5) - 4

Comments – Literally the best teacher in the program, by far. This does NOT mean the class is easy, it was actually pretty tough. What it DOES mean is that he is absolutely passionate about the subject matter, and noticeably tries to help you to learn it, because he wants you to be passionate about it too (not happening). He has video lectures, supplemental videos, discussion forums, weekly live zoom sessions, and even “comedy interludes” (mostly not very funny, except maybe to economists). He is also highly responsive to email, and you absolute can and should email him or post in the forum if you’re having problems. Essentially, he is highly interactive as a teacher, and probably the closest you will get to a “classroom” setting in an online program. Certainly the closest you will get at LSUS.

“A” Strategy – The textbook really is supplemental for this class. You can get one if you want, but you should be able to get everything you need from his lecture videos and supplemental videos. Note that the supplemental videos are multiple, click the “hamburger” on the first video to see the entire playlist available. You are basically graded along the lines of a few quizzes a week (called different names). Untimed and unproctored. Don’t let that fool you, as the first few aren’t easy and the end of week module assessments is HARD. Take your time with the first video quizzes and self-assessment, which are mostly qualitative. Watch the videos, re-watch the videos again while taking the quiz. Watch a supplemental if you need to, re-watch if you need to. Do YouTube searches on the topic if you still need help and watch a few more videos. Do whatever you need to do until you are 100% sure that your answers are correct. If you want an “A” in the class, you can’t afford to lose any points on these. The extra work you put in will also help a little for the final assessment, which is mostly quantitative. You get a homework “assignment” which you should once again do exhaustively. The assignment is essentially the final module assessment. If you do the assignment correctly, you will have all the answers you need for the assessment (just make sure you label things, so you know what they are for the assessment). That said, there were still a few application type questions that really seemed subjective. If you get through these assessments with a B average, the 100’s from the quizzes will pull you back to an A.

Time commitment - Depending on your math ability (mine is moderate-high), In addition to studying time, I recommend setting aside at least 2-3 hours per quiz and much more for the assignment. At moderate-high math skill with some familiarity with Excel, 15-20 hours per week. Add more for low math and/or low Excel ability.

ISDS 705 – Lin

In one phrase – “Does this person actually exist?”

Difficulty (out of 5) - 1

Comments – If Shaughnessy is the Gold Standard, then Lin is the Sub-Standard. Several of us here at TD are convinced that he doesn’t actually exist. If he does, he’s probably on a beach sipping Mai Tai’s all session, because he sure as hell isn’t interacting with the class. Obviously there is no public forum, zoom sessions, or any interaction whatsoever. You’re given a free textbook written before the invention of the first Phone, that would be perfect for anyone who wanted to enter the IS profession in the 90’s. It’s outdated and boring as are the videos and supplemental readings you will be assigned. Fortunately for you, you don’t actually need to understand anything you’re assigned, and most of it is useless anyway! The tests also use ProctorU, which means someone will be staring at you as you take the test, and possibly accusing you of cheating for using the allowed double sided note sheet.

“A” Strategy – Your grade is based on 3 tests. That’s it. You bomb the tests, and you’re out of luck. I did mention this was a one * class right? That’s because it is easily the easiest (and most useless) course in the program. The material is probably appropriate for the high school level, and the tests are even below that. They are mostly focused on vocabulary/definitions with a smattering of trivia. You’re allowed a single 8.5”x11” double sided note sheet, so make use of it. While you are reading, type out everything you think might be a good vocabulary definition or piece of trivia. Don’t copy and paste, type it out as this should help you remember it better. Once you’re done with all of your typing, set the margins to the absolute minimum, single space, and then set the font to the smallest you can read (you can manually type to select a font smaller than 8). Use a small font like Calibri Light or Arial Narrow. You can edit the notes a little more if you need to make it fit the one page front and back. At this point, you should be able to get at least 70% of the questions correct from memory, another 20% will just be definitions that you hopefully wrote down. The last 10% or so will be trivia, along the lines of a name, date, or acronym. Once again, some of the reading is highly technical and will make zero sense. You don’t need to understand it, just try to find the possible vocabulary words.

Time commitment – Maximum 8 hours per test for 3 tests. 24 hours max for the class (probably less). The tests took me less than 10 minutes to finish each time.


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baroqen
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MKT 701 – A. Darrat

In one phrase – “Where did this come from?”

Difficulty (out of 5) - 2 (with textbook) or 4 (without textbook)

Comments – Much maligned, for some legitimate reason, Darrat might still be the best professor to choose for this class as the others are generally even more maligned. That said, it is far from optimal but could be much better with just a few small tweaks. The biggest problem with the class is poor pacing, so expect your 7 week workload to be: light, medium, VERY HEAVY, heavy, VERY HEAVY, medium, light. Second major problem is that most of the writing assignments don’t feel like they tie into the course material at all. The third problem is that you’re only given a powerpoint that is VERY obviously meant to be used in a classroom setting with parts (highlighted in red) that were meant to be verbally expanded upon. The last problem is that without the text you will constantly be wondering where the test questions are coming from, because they aren’t covered by the powerpoints at all. The class has 2 discussion posts most weeks, a case analysis on each of week 3, 4, and 5, and tests on week 3, 5, and 7. No public forum, no video lectures, no zoom, and minimal interaction. The grading is heavily skewed towards your multiple writing assignments, but you can’t neglect the tests. Don’t expect to understand the tests without the textbook. It should be a requirement. A change to weekly quizzes or tests and case analyses on alternating weeks would dramatically improve the course. Tie the writing assignments with the actual course material, turn the powerpoints into actual video lectures, and you’d have a decent class.

“A” strategy – Get the textbook. Read the textbook. This will ensure that you at least don’t completely bomb the tests. If you do not get the textbook, you can stop reading this strategy because chances are you will not be able to get an “A” by just using the provided powerpoints. After that, the rest is all writing. Write, write, write, and then write some more. READ THE RUBRIC, read it each time you’re writing. You’re not writing a business case, you’re writing for a scoring rubric, so make sure you hit all the points that the rubric wants. Be creative. If you have an idea that you can support using reasoning, then just go with it. Try to throw in a few vocabulary words from the textbook when applicable. Getting top scores on your writing assignments will give you leeway on the sometimes wonky test questions.

Time commitment – Variable and possibly substantial if you’re looking for an “A”. Writing generally took me just a couple of hours, but deciding on a topic and then finding good citation sources took a lot of time. The time commitment is also highly variable due to the poor scheduling of the assignments, but expect to spend at least 25 hours on weeks 3 and 5 writing and studying. The other weeks are lighter with Weeks 1 and 7 probably taking less than 10 hours.

MADM 760 – McLaughlin

In one phrase – “Almost great!”

Difficulty (out of 5) - 3

Comments – This is what MKT 701 could be when it grows up. MADM 760 seems to have the opposite issue of MKT 701 in that pretty much all the professors come recommended, as opposed to MKT 701 where none of them are. While interaction is weak in McLaughlin’s (aka practically none), the workload is very balanced from week to week making it easier to plan for. A weekly quiz on 1-2 chapters, 6 discussion posts with multiple questions to respond to and two responses each (weeks 1-6), and a 3 paragraph weekly “current event” paper tied to the course material. A little guidance on word count would be nice, video lectures, a public forum and a bit more interaction would be nicer. The course material is relatively straightforward and the text does a relatively good job explaining the concepts. The quizzes can get very detailed however, and just understanding the macro concepts without (sometimes highly specific) details on how and when they work will make you lose points. This is the main source of “difficulty” for the class, because the writing is pretty straightforward. No fluff writing, no group work, no project, and no mega paper. Only quirk of the course is a slightly odd (to me) requirement to cite the textbook for every current event assignment, not just incorporate the concepts.

“A” Strategy – You need to make your initial post very early (Tuesday) followed by two response posts on two different days making the timeline a bit tight imho. Focus on the discussion post right away, I usually follow up with my first response that same night. Once again, you need to follow the rubric, but it’s also relatively vague. Just write a response for each question, which should probably be about a paragraph each. It probably wouldn’t hurt to throw in a vocabulary word or two from the text for the week. You will also need to read the text early on, because your second writing assignment must be tied to at least one concept from the course material. I recommend trying to tie in several to be safe, and most articles should support this anyway since the weekly topics are pretty closely related. The current event paper also partially prepares you for the quiz. The text is decent with a few topics and examples to assist understanding. However, note that the test questions can get pretty detailed, so you really will need to actually study, as opposed to just reading once. I highly recommend answering the T/F and Multiple Choice questions provided at the end of each chapter. You can review the powerpoint (if you want) right before the test to refresh your memory on those topics but it isn’t enough on its own. For writing, I recommend about a paragraph for each question (3-4 questions) for the discussion posts and 1 – 1.5 pages (3 paragraphs, double spaced, 12 point font) for the current event assignments. Don’t forget to amply cite the text for the current event assignments (don’t just cite the text once). The key for McLaughlin’s class is concise, detailed, and quality writing instead of needless verbosity.

Time Commitment – 10 - 20 hours/week (The low range is enough for an easy B, the high range for an A). A bit repetitive but the predictable nature of the course load is good for managing your schedule. Highly recommended version for those whose time is at a premium, as the other professors appear to have much higher time commitments.


baroqen
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MKT 705 – Kim

In one phrase – “Tries hard.”

Difficulty (out of 5) - 2

Comments – Essentially MADM 760, but a little bit better due to more interaction/feedback. There are some short lecture videos as well as external supplemental videos, some of which are really interesting. The powerpoints are useful for review, but watch the lecture videos. She isn’t just reading off the PPT. Like most marketing or management classes, there’s a good deal of writing in the class. No public forums, one quiz and one paper weeks 1-6, alternating between a case analysis and application assignment. One quiz and final exam for week 7. Lots of reading from multiple sources can be a bit confusing, and some of the reading was pretty tedious. Also, pay attention to the specific pages you’re supposed to read. You’re not required to read full chapters of many of the sources (but the actual pages aren’t “cut out” for you). The teacher seems really bright, perky, and all around pleasant. Seems like a relatively new teacher that is trying hard to have a good class. Adding a public forum and zoom would be great.

“A” Strategy – Pretty much the same as for MADM 760, with the only exception that there is a final exam. Balanced course work with slightly more writing each week and the need to have a few external sources makes it a slightly heavier research load, but this is balanced by no discussion forum posts. RUBRIC, RUBRIC, RUBRIC. By now this should be a common theme, but you’re writing for a rubric so make sure you’re following what it wants because the two paper requirements are NOT exactly the same. Requirements from different professors also vary. You also get a pretty generous extra credit for creating a very simple video introducing yourself in the first week. Since you’re reading the “A” strategy, this is a no brainer. DO IT.

Time Commitment – 12-18 hours/week. More extensive external source material requirements makes it a little more time consuming than MADM 760 due to time spent on research.

ISDS 702 – Koksal

In one phrase – “Compact”

Difficulty (out of 5) – 2 (if you don’t try to understand everything) 3.5 (if you do)

Comments – If you’re in the Data Analytics concentration, I highly recommend taking this class first. This is also a good class to take prior to ECON 705 as it eases you into some of the skills and knowledge you will need for ECON. Supposedly some FIN classes can also benefit from this class, so don’t leave it off till later! The class itself can seem daunting at times but this is actually due more from the way it’s explained (or not explained). You don’t actually get a lot of information and the information that you do get isn’t always explained well. As another student put it, “It’s like he knows what he is talking about but can’t convey it properly” (pineveillj, 2019). This is an extremely accurate assessment. He either drones on and over-explains simple topics or completely skips important explanations. You’re often left doing something that doesn’t make sense because you don’t understand WHY you need to do it in such a backwards fashion. Once you stop trying to actually understand it, it’s actually pretty easy and I will detail it out in the “A” strategy. The information can be pretty good and statistical skills (as well as general analytical skills) are becoming increasingly important for career potential. If you can just “roll with it”, it’s a very good class with highly condensed knowledge and you WILL actually start to understand it better as you do it. Don’t waste your time beating yourself up about it and follow the “A” strategy.

“A” Strategy – The most important part of the “A” strategy is to not overthink it. Just try to filter out the important information from what he’s saying and DO it. Focus on memorizing instead of understanding. There are two key components to the “A” strategy. The first part is getting the Excel portion. Do the initial discussion post exercise (you don’t have to actually post it to the board though) and then compare your results with his. If you got it wrong, you need to figure out how to get it right. I re-watch the videos while doing the discussions. You need to understand how to do the Excel portion in order to complete the assignment, so you can just review the Excel portions of the videos. Excel is straightforward as long as you understand which formula to use and when to use it. The assignment quiz is “open book” and taken directly from the Excel assignment. Just have the assignment open and you should be able to get an easy 100% (You get a second chance with the assignment, your score is best out of two). The second component is memorization. Before taking the quiz, go over the lecture videos again and memorize facts, definitions, charts, etc. The quiz is proctored and not open book, but it is also purely theoretical, there is NO math and NO Excel knowledge involved. Memorizing the facts is sufficient. You also don’t need to actually understand “why” something is the way it is, just accept that it is and memorize it.

Time Commitment – 5-10 hours MAX depending on your inherent Excel skills.

MADM 701 – McLaughlin

In one phrase – “Almost great!”

Difficulty (out of 5) - 3

Comments – Since I’ve gone over McLaughlin’s MADM 760 already, I won’t re-hash it all here as the class is VERY similar. I’ve updated the strategy tips in the section below for the minor changes. Another difference is that current event paper topics are a bit more difficult to find, so you might spend more time on research.

“A” Strategy – The discussion post is not due until Thursday, which makes the timeline a bit better compared to the Tuesday deadline of her 760 class. The discussions are taken directly from one of the mini case studies at the back of one of the chapters. They require more topic integration than the MADM 760 ones, but are also more targeted questions. As a result, they’re a comparatively lighter writing load to complete. The quizzes suffer the same issue from MADM 760 and are frankly the reason for the 3 star difficulty ratings for both classes. You’re always going to have a few trick questions on the test that are supposed to “make you think” but are often just semantics. MADM 701 might actually be a little worse due to a significantly larger number of actual course topics and the amount of detail the book goes into. This means there’s a ton of information that you will need to remember for the test. Once again, I recommend using any questions at the back of the chapter. The 701 PowerPoints also include discussion topics at the beginning of each PPT. I also recommend reviewing and answering these as part of your test prep.

Time Commitment – 15 - 25 hours/week. It feels like 701 has a lot more reading than 760 did, hence the higher time commitment to read and also study. However, it does have slightly less writing, although a bit more potential research time.


baroqen
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I thought about leaving out this last review as it was written about the cluster that was ISDS 710 when they changed the format. However, it may still be valuable as the first half of the class was probably close to the new FIN 740 while the second half of the class is the current ISDS 710. Probably...

ISDS 710 – M. Darrat

In one phrase – “What… the… hell?”

Difficulty (out of 5) - 4

Comments – EDIT: The following review was written before the class did another complete 180 mid-semester and returned to the original format, except you had to catch up on 4 weeks at once. Needless to say, this was a complete cluster, and I can only highly discourage taking this course (or even the entire Data Analytics concentration aside from ISDS 702) until they fix the many, many, many problems with it.

This course has already evolved significantly from the first iteration, which was (from what I read in the previous reviews) essentially just a marketing class with some numbers thrown in. The current iteration is a complete 180 from that in both good and bad ways, and it has further evolved during the course of the session I attended. Initially, all of the teaching was done through the free portion of an online program called “Data Camp” that teaches you to use a statistical tool called “R”. Since I work closely with actual analysts, I’ve learned that “R” is actually a seriously legit tool used commonly by scholars, schools, and statisticians and less commonly by companies (which tend to prefer the more specialized Python or SAS). That said, even major companies will sometimes use it because “everyone has it” (it’s free) so it’s a convenient language to use when you’re collaborating with outside parties. As far as material is concerned, R is pretty legit. On the third week, he started doing a zoom where he actually was teaching. It was seriously helpful and made a huge difference so hopefully he keeps it. That said, it’s DAMN hard to learn this out of the blue in just seven weeks unless you have a strong background in coding or similar work. The material also skips around in a manner that is NOT intuitive. Due to the tight time constraint of the 7 week session, some material is skipped that probably shouldn’t be. Expect to be saying “What the hell?” a lot throughout the class, whether doing assignments, problem sets, or taking tests. Without the zoom sessions, this class would be recommended for those with strong programming backgrounds or strong masochistic streaks. The professor says that it will be like learning a new language, which is true. Except most people do not learn new languages in 7 weeks. It is also not like trying to learn to read, write, and speak French or Spanish. It is a lot more like trying to learn how to read, write, and speak ancient Sumerian or Aramaic… in seven weeks. Don’t pair it with a heavy class. If you’re interested in getting into real analytics, you might not want to pair it at all, spend your time doubling up on the full Data Camp program (not just the assignments) and maybe really learn it.

Comments Addendum – As noted above, midway through the course the format was completely switched back to the original, with a tremendous amount of catchup work to do in week 4. Admittedly the “new” format was valuable for DA concentrations but essentially useless for Marketing concentrations. The “old” format is almost the reverse, although it’s only mostly useless for DA, instead of entirely useless. There is actually a lot of good information in both versions, but the school’s desire to recycle the course to serve double duty to two highly different concentrations is a disservice to both concentrations in this form.

“A” Strategy –
*EDIT – Don’t take this class. There is no way to know what shenanigans are going to happen. Best to avoid until it all settles out.*

Assuming the class does not evolve again (EDIT: HAH! How prophetic this was…), I’d recommend running yourself through the free portion of the Data Camp program, and possibly also using “Swirl”, over a blank period such as Christmas Break and then taking the class immediately after. Better yet, start learning R at least 6 months before starting the MBA program, and take the course alone for your first session. It would give you a huge head start. Although you probably still wouldn’t know what the hell is going on, at least you would mostly know how to do it. Close to half of your grade comes from simply completing the problem sets (not too hard) and Data Camp Assignments (which you can do at any skill level, because you can actually get the answer directly using the “Get Answer” button – although that doesn’t help you learn it). You will not be penalized for using the button, you’re scored purely for completion of assignments. The other half comes from weekly quizzes and a final project. You will want to try and get full credit (or as close as possible) for the Problem Sets, Quizzes, and Final Project. IF you can manage to get 100% of the points for those three sections, you’ll be able to scrape out an A with just a 64.7% average on your quizzes. If you lose even 10 total points from the first 3 sections, you will need to increase your average quiz score to 71.3%. The first quiz is straightforward. You’ll want to try to study a lot on the first week to try and capture 100% on that quiz to slightly reduce the pressure for the other quizzes. You’re allowed several “cheat sheets” provided by the class for the quizzes (PRINT THEM OUT, you can use them on your computer, but the “A” strategy is to PRINT THEM OUT) and the usage of “R Studio” (open it before you start the quiz), which you will want to use for all but the first quiz. If you have at least a bit of a grasp on the course material, you can sometimes use R Studio to check some of your answers. These last two tips are also the most important - He has stated that 80% of his quizzes will come from the text so study accordingly. If you breeze through the text, don’t expect to pass the quizzes. If he continues his zoom sessions, they are also HIGHLY recommended to view/review before you take the quiz.

Time Commitment – Potentially infinite if you really want to understand what you’re doing. Maybe as little as 10-20 hours if you’re only looking for a B or a C. You’re either going to “get it” or spend countless hours continually not getting it. That said, it’s set up so you can “fake it till you make it” if you’re okay with possibly getting a C. If you want an A, you will need to get at least a basic grasp of the concepts. Then spend the time to get good scores on the problem sets, assignments, and project. Study the text and zoom and you should be able to squeak out an overall A.


godgatherstl
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re: LSUS Online MBA Reviews
@marssmi0827 and @signa7 how was your class with Kugnu MADM701? I am considering Kugnu and Heller. Can't decide. I am not a good writer. Thx


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