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Is This a Good 401K Plan?

Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:32 am
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:32 am
I've been at my employer for a few months and will be eligible to start contributing soon. They match .50 cents on every dollar up to 4%. I know it's not great but it is average or below average?

Vested at:
1 Year - 20%
2 Years - 40%
3 Years - 60%
4 Years - 80%
5 Years - 100%
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:33 am to
My fiance has a terrible one. It's they match 10% of the first 5% you put in.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:40 am to
Pretty standard. Not a bad plan. Like a Simple IRA light
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35541 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:40 am to
quote:

My fiance has a terrible one. It's they match 10% of the first 5% you put in.


Can she get a 10% return by putting the money in a savings account?

Free money is free money. If an employer is stable enough and willing to match a percentage of funds it's a good deal.
Posted by CoolHand
Member since Dec 2011
2084 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:54 am to
As far as a 401k goes, it's about average. As far as an investment goes, it's a no brainer.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:58 am to
Oh yeah, I'll definitely be participating and maxing it out. Just curious
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 9:07 am to
somewhere around average probably.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 10:08 am to
I would say the low side of average, but not terrible. It still beats hell out of a regular savings account.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 10:11 am to
quote:

As far as a 401k goes, it's about average. As far as an investment goes, it's a no brainer.


+1
Not amazing, not terrible. But any match is free money. At least go to the 4%
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 10:27 am to
Wife has 100% for the first 1% then 50% to 6%. That's pretty good, right?
Posted by CoolHand
Member since Dec 2011
2084 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 11:14 am to
Ok, to put actual numbers to it:
DOL statistics

As you can see, a lot goes into the comparison. For your variables:

Earnings matched:
10% matched > 6%
41% matched 6%
49% matched < 6%

Employer match
36% matched 100%
39% matched 50%
14% matched <50%
Not sure about remaining 11%

Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 11:19 am to
quote:

CoolHand


Thanks for the stats, that is really cool.

quote:

Not sure about remaining 11%


presumably, they are >100%

For instance, my company:

gives 3% no matter what, 100% match on the first 3%, 50% match on the next 3%.

That's a total "match" of 7.5% on 6% contribution.
Posted by CoolHand
Member since Dec 2011
2084 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 11:31 am to
quote:

That's a total "match" of 7.5% on 6% contribution.


For me, "effective total match" would be a better stat to compare. Mine would me 3.5%. 100% of first 1%, 50% of next 5%.

I'd rather have 50% match on 6% than 100% on 1%.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Wife has 100% for the first 1% then 50% to 6%. That's pretty good, right?


I'd say it's a little better than average. From what I've seen at different companies, 50% match to 6% was the pre-recession norm.
Posted by El Josey Wales
Greater Geismar
Member since Nov 2007
22710 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 11:55 am to
Much better than the plan my employer offers, which is nothing.
Posted by pchris2
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
232 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 7:19 pm to
Love my company. 100% to 6%. But yours is pretty standard. Same my company offered before my job switch.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

Much better than the plan my employer offers, which is nothing.


My employer before the last didn't start matching until 6 months before I quit. I was baffled by all the people who still didn't contribute after they started matching 50 to 6.

I'll never take an employer match for granted. My current one is nothing your first year, 100% to 6% after that and you're immediately vested in all of it. Hope I retire here.
This post was edited on 4/30/12 at 8:04 pm
Posted by CoolHand
Member since Dec 2011
2084 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:24 pm to
You guys with 100% of 6% are rockin it. That's 12% towards your retirement right there. Awesome.
Posted by aaronb023
TeamBunt CEO
Member since Feb 2005
11774 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

50% match to 6% was the pre-recession norm


thats what im working with
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
6784 posts
Posted on 4/30/12 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

presumably, they are >100%


Yeah, my company puts in 7% of our earnings if we put in 6%. Maybe we are in that 11%?
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