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Is the commentariat overselling the coming inflation increase?

Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:48 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73293 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 9:48 am
To clarify, I concede that price increases are coming in Q2.

However, there are a couple of data points making me wonder if folks are potentially overestimating what is coming.

The Umich survey released last week showed that independent voters think inflation will surge to 6.2% (from 2.4% currently) and dems think it will surge to 7%.

The most recent estimate is that the effective total tariff rate for all foreign goods coming into our nation will be 18% using a dynamic model (26% static model)

With those 2 data points in mind, I came across this blurb on Twitter


quote:

The National Bureau of Economic Research analyzed the 2018–2019 U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods. They found that for every 10% tariff, retail prices rose 1–2%. So even a 50% tariff, if applied, might cause retail prices to edge up 5–10% — not 50%.


So, we are potentially looking at a 1.8-2.8% increase in the retail price for goods with a foreign input. But this basket of goods is just a subset of the total goods in our economy. Once you add all goods, the price increase is even more diluted.


There is one other data point to ponder:

Two separate March hard data points indicated we had outright deflation in March. If the coming price increases are happening at the same time that deflation in other sectors are happening, the tariff price increases may get “swallowed up” in larger trends.


In summary, I would be utterly shocked if umich is right and inflation jumps from 2.4 to 6%

Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148579 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:04 am to
Way to many moving parts to accurately predict.

Cucked Ann Arbor doesn't know
Independents don't know
Dems don't know
Trump doesn't know
This board doesn't know




And you probably can't believe it but, SFP doesn't know. Even though he may tell you a few dozen times that he does.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
58020 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 10:51 am to
I was listening to some news report on the radio this morning as I was getting ready for work. Some woman was talking about how she had been expecting to spend $30k on new baby furniture but now are afraid they are going to pay over $200k.

Anyone paying $30k for baby furniture (outside of specialty medical equipment) is already grossly overpaying.

$46.8k 19th century crib

Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35470 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 11:40 am to
Tariffs don’t directly cause inflation.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35732 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 12:54 pm to
It’s not inflation. It’s basically federal sales tax that increases the price that is passed on to the consumer.


I’m interested to see how all these tariffs interplay upon each other. A component is made in one place, passed on somewhere with a tariff, that country charges more for the whole which is paid by the consumer that eventually charges more for their goods which impacts another good.

I could see this impacting certain items we never contemplated this impacting.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60783 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

To clarify, I concede that price increases are coming in Q2.
Probably
quote:

6.2% (from 2.4% currently) and dems think it will surge to 7%.
I would be shocked. We have had tariffs in the past. Look, the biggest abuser is China, that will be painful in all probablity. But the trade deals reached with most of the rest of the world will be minimally impactful.
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