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IPOF - the last great SPAC?

Posted on 4/4/22 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Upperdecker
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Posted on 4/4/22 at 12:59 pm
Some of you may have seen my previous posts on low risk, high reward, retail momentum plays such as GME, BB, and CLOV. Those went ok. Here’s one more

IPOF is a SPAC created by Chamath Paliphatiya, who brought stocks like Virgin Galactic, CLOV, SOFI, and OpenDoor to market through SPAC. Full disclosure, SPACs have been nailed mercilessly in the market the past 6 months, these being no exception. But these are higher quality than most SPAC companies, and appear to have seen bottom. IPOF and IPOD are the last two remaining SPACs in a series of SPACs created by Chamath. Both are relevant here.

The target company of IPOF is believed to be Starlink, the satellite communications company created by Elon Musk. Their primary focus is providing high speed internet in poorly served areas, such as recently deploying in Ukraine after the Russian invasion. Starlink is currently part of SpaceX. The combination of Starlink and SpaceX were valued at $100B by Morgan Stanley last year, with Starlink believed to be the more valuable part of the venture from a market perspective.
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Starlink/SpaceX is valued as the second largest private company in the world.

As a SPAC, IPOF has a $10 floor. If no target is found, you get your $10 back when the company dissolves (roughly end of 2022). So your likely true bottom is somewhere around $9.80 if you wanted to sell early and there was an announcement that there would not be a SPAC merger. In a merger with Starlink, I’d imagine IPOF receives huge retail boost, resulting in a DWAC or TSLA effect (growing many times past the expected valuation). Elon has that effect, as seen by Twitter taking off today. So your risk reward ratio is fantastic, as the stock is currently at $10.20. 2% risk vs 500% reward. Your requirement is potentially patience

If you’re interested and want to buy in before the deal is announced, i would buy in between now and 4/19. 4/20 is the most obvious date for deal.


The rest of this post is evidence

Chamath is part of a podcast of influential venture capitalists, called the All-In Podcast. It’s worth a listen IMO. They’ve talked about Elon frequently, until recently. Past several months Elon has made many news worthy headlines and has not been mentioned once. Starlink has made headlines, and has not been mentioned once. Keep in mind, these are venture capitalists looking to invest or discuss late stage private companies like Discord, Reddit, SpaceX/Starlink, etc. But not one mention of SpaceX/Starlink. They would not be allowed to discuss SpaceX/Starlink if a deal was in the works.

Podcast is up to episode 74. Episode 69 was mysteriously skipped. The crew has mentioned this but not given a real reason, except that episode 69 will come out soon. 69 and 420 are Elon‘s favorite numbers. 4/20 is in 2.5 weeks. Put that together. Then keep in mind, they can’t talk Elon or SpaceX/Starlink if a deal is in the works and hasn’t been announced yet

IPOF structurally is the largest SPAC ever. It’s created for taking a giant company public. Starlink would need that sizing at its current valuation. IPOD, the other remaining SPAC, was restructured to mirror IPOF two weeks ago at a smaller scale - potentially to increase the size of IPOF.

Elon has a noted love for retail investors and has mentioned previously that when Starlink or SpaceX goes public, he wants retail to get a shot at them. SPAC would be the way to do that. Chamath and Elon are known to be friends and talk privately - flight tracking and cryptic tweets indicate they partied together in Tuscany a couple months ago (both have private jets so easy to track)

Chamath dropped a hint about IPOF by showing a specific watch with a celestial theme to it

The All-In podcast responded to comments about episode 69 twice last Friday (they had not done so previously) with the word “patience” - very vague but unlikely to comment if they don’t see it coming together soon

Based on SPAC dissolution timing, Chamath needs to put together a deal by the end of April. It’s not absolute, but the average time from deal announced to merger is 6 months, and so any time after April would be risking the merger finalization requirement of end of October

I’ll add more in here later, but this gives you an idea of the speculative investing being done here and what you’re getting yourself into. I post this now as timing feels about right. I notably posted about GME, BB, and CLOV with pretty accurate timing as well, but I’m just speculating on the timing here as nothing is written in stone. Look into it more if you’re interested. Not financial advice.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/4/22 at 2:12 pm to
Gme was my pick baw

This is my pick too I seen her first
Posted by Triple Bogey
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Posted on 4/4/22 at 2:23 pm to
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IPOF is a SPAC created by Chamath Paliphatiya


From my own personal investing woes, avoid anything he is involved in.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/4/22 at 2:26 pm to
Dude made millions of dollars and gave one of the best interviews of all time on cnbc during the GME drama.

Haters gonna hate I guess
Posted by Triple Bogey
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Posted on 4/4/22 at 2:34 pm to
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Dude made millions of dollars and gave one of the best interviews of all time on cnbc during the GME drama.

Haters gonna hate I guess


I've always loved Chamath and listen to the all-in podcast every week. But I got burned like a bitch on SPCE because he stepped down and sold all his shares. I sold out of CLOV near the top, but that one burned a ton of people as well.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/4/22 at 3:05 pm to
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Podcast is up to episode 74. Episode 69 was mysteriously skipped. The crew has mentioned this but not given a real reason, except that episode 69 will come out soon. 69 and 420 are Elon‘s favorite numbers. 4/20 is in 2.5 weeks. Put that together. Then keep in mind, they can’t talk Elon or SpaceX/Starlink if a deal is in the works and hasn’t been announced yet


FWIW, this is a great podcast.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/4/22 at 3:07 pm to
All SPACs got wrecked last 6 months or so. Wall St doesn’t like SPACs since they don’t get their sweetheart deal like IPOs

Chamath also withdrew from SPCE on the same day that SpaceX performed a 10-1 stock split privately, so that’s part of the recent fuel here
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6496 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 3:07 pm to
If this is truly starlink takeover, I may hold on to it.

But if not, I'll ride the momentum and dump it
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30545 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 3:08 pm to
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FWIW, this is a great podcast.

I enjoy it and think they do a good job being balanced and reasonable, but 3/4 are liberals so bound to trigger some people here
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30545 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 3:09 pm to
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This is my pick too I seen her first

Bruh you were just saying how you were getting bored of it and might sell out
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/4/22 at 3:14 pm to
I did sell out but I still invented it
Posted by Triple Bogey
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Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:08 pm to
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Chamath also withdrew from SPCE on the same day that SpaceX performed a 10-1 stock split privately, so that’s part of the recent fuel here


Yeah, just look at his past track record though. CLOV, OPEN, SOFI, SPCE. Could be a great trade if the rumors are true, but if the past is any indication for the future I wouldn't hold onto it for a long period of time or he may dump all his interest and leave you bagholding.

Posted by Triple Bogey
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Posted on 4/4/22 at 4:10 pm to
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I enjoy it and think they do a good job being balanced and reasonable, but 3/4 are liberals so bound to trigger some people here


David Sacks is my favorite one on the pod.
Posted by TheJunction
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Member since Oct 2014
950 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 9:46 am to
Is there a "catch" with SPAC's if buy around the $10 mark? We're likely buying a house in the next few months so I have a decent amount of cash just hanging out getting 1.5%.

Very tempted to throw it in here if the absolute lowest I have to worry about is a 2% drop.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30545 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:44 am to
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Is there a "catch" with SPAC's if buy around the $10 mark? We're likely buying a house in the next few months so I have a decent amount of cash just hanging out getting 1.5%.

Your $10 is guaranteed at the end of the dissolution which is roughly October 2022. But if they announced they would not do a merger tomorrow, the price probably falls to like 9.80 since you’d have to wait 6 months for your payout.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 3:04 pm to
That volume in the last 20 minutes before the bell
Posted by TheJunction
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2014
950 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 3:14 pm to
Was a nice surprise to see!
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30545 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 3:34 pm to
I’m looking around but not seeing anything concrete. The only news is confirmation that Chamath was seen in person near CNBC studios in NYC, which he has been on CNBC following the last few times he’s made a deal announcement

If my timing was perfect again though
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 3:35 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 3:55 pm to
Man good thing I showed you this pick
Posted by TheJunction
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2014
950 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 4:12 pm to
I hope you nailed it. Put 30% of our house downpayment into it! (I’d read about it a month or so ago and never pulled the trigger, but it’d stayed in my mind. Got in at 10.13, figured the potential reward was worth the small risk, had the money getting 1.5% or so in a savings account)
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 4:31 pm
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