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re: If The Fed Was Serious About Inflation

Posted on 10/18/22 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 2:28 pm to
I mean M2 has been dropping steadily as the rates in Reverse Repo are highly desired by the banks / MMF

So unless BANKS raise interest to depositors the outflow in bank reserves to MMFs etc will likely continue

So … good?
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:48 pm to
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Just as a check - If "the money suppply" increased 3.5x higher since 2019, why are we only getting 8% CPI reads?


Average inflation was ~2.3% for FY2019. 2.3% x 3.5 = 8.05%

The average CPI for FY2022 (thus far) is 8.288%.

quote:

Why didn't GDP expand in a linear fashion with that growth?


We sort of did.





The first stimmy check was March 2020.
The big drop was Q2 2020, when the economy got shut down.
The big spike was Q3 2020.
The second stimmy check was December 2020.
The third stimmy check was March 2021.

The first check was right as the lockdown started at the end of Q1 (this was also when they "temporarily" increased welfare benefits), no one was buying anything because almost all stores were closed. The few businesses allowed to stay open did well (looking at you, Home Depot) but there weren't that many and this was throughout Q2. That drop in GDP reversed mightily in Q3 as some allowances were made, more people began doing online shopping and more businesses moved to accepting online business in order just to survive.

The end of Q3 saw the rent moratorium and then the 2nd stimulus at the end of Q4 2020.

The final stimulus check was at the end of Q1 in 2021.

Remove the warping from the shutdown and we have increased GDP each quarter following a stimulus check (this makes sense since the checks were sent out at the end of the quarters). Even without removing the warping, GDP from Q1 2020 through Q4 2021 averaged at least a full percentage point above the entire prior period going back to at least '06.

So even though it wasn't completely linear, we did indeed see a definite increase in GDP both in the quarter immediately following the checks being released (when businesses were open), but also when comparing the average GDP growth from the period to the average from the previous decade(ish).

Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 6:59 pm to
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wutangfinancial


Trying to figure out if youre trolling or legit special needs at this point.

Inflation is a very simple concept. Velocity is MMT gobbledegook, the mathematical concept is an easily shredded economic fallacy that falls apart under any serious mathematical analysis.
This post was edited on 10/20/22 at 7:06 pm
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:09 am to
The Stimulus checks and PPP loans were debt financed spending that’s not printing money. Quarantine and rent moratoriums aren’t printing money. That’s exactly my point

The orchestrated global lockdowns, especially out East, had way more of an impact on the price of good and services than stimulus checks did. $1200 in the mail doesn’t change consumer behavior. Shutting down your city does.

Again as a test: where was this “inflation” from 2008-2019?
Posted by Hussss
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:31 am to
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where was this “inflation” from 2008-2019


Locked up in “excess reserves” as well as financial market “asset prices.”
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:48 am to
Bank reserves aren't money which is my point. As far as new money being "locked up" in asset prices we know that's not true. Capital flows, the business of wall street and stockbuybacks explain the multiple expansion over that time period. All coincidental with QE and low fed funds rates.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 8:04 pm to
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Bank reserves aren't money


What are they?
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 8:38 pm to
It’s a fake number on a general ledger
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:24 pm to
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It’s a fake number on a general ledger


What's the number represent?

You've been grossly wrong about inflation for over a year, not sure it's even worth discussing
This post was edited on 10/22/22 at 6:27 am
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 10:07 am to
Crickets
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 10/22/22 at 7:43 pm to
Yeah sorry for not responding on a Friday night

It represents commercial bank lending capacity. BTW I haven’t been “wrong”about “inflation.” I have a different definition than you. Commodity driven price increases isn’t inflation to me, big deal. Doesn’t mean our cost of living hasn’t gone up like 20-30% since the CARES Act was passed. I would rather crucify the Covid and climate freaks who are responsible for it not the boogie man Fed chair.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:30 am to
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I have a different definition than you.


That's cute
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 12:53 pm to
You’re the fintwit NPC of this board with an elementary understanding of inflation. Everything you’ve said for the past year is a deflection. Sad. I’ll continue holding calls in leveraged USD ETNs while y’all scream at the sky that CPI isn’t printing 50% and long rates are below 4%. You’re smarter than the bond market, I forgot.
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 10/23/22 at 1:52 pm to
My UUP brother
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 8:07 am to
I occasionally look at M1, M2, M2V. Overlay of Total Assets and inverted M2V graphs is interesting though.


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