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re: HEX (Blockchain Certificate of Deposit)

Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by JayDeerTay84
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:25 pm to
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Constructive criticism is welcome, not dumb stuff like it needs to be on a cex for adequate liquidity


How else do you expect to grow the market-cap to surpass ETH?

You think people will fund a liquidity pool larger than ETH itself to purchase a smart contract ERC20 token?

I dont think you have thought through how this would have to happen and I do not believe it is mathematically possible.

You can be dismissive and call this dumb but its a legit question and issue for the claims you make.

This is a prime example if how the discussion goes.

If you guys use this type of tactics for a Pulse thread then yea, expect much of the same.

In another life, instead of calling it dumb, you could maybe explain to me, an active DEX, Defi, swap user, how HEX could manage to accomplish this. One of the largest liquidity pools for HEX is the USDC pair and there isn't even enough total USDC via market-cap to accomplish this. Right now on UNI, there is only like 32 Million in the HEX/USDC pair.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted by slacker00
Member since Mar 2011
593 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:42 pm to
Perhaps I misunderstand what you are saying but are you trying to suggest that the liquidity pool (if that is the only place available for swap) needs to be the size of the marketcap?
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:43 pm to
Just staked 90k hex until Christmas 2023.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

You think people will fund a liquidity pool larger than ETH itself to purchase a smart contract ERC20 token?


If the returns are large enough, of course. People provide liquidity for plays they know nothing about. Spooky swap is a good example of this.

Not being on Cexes only decreases the daily volume. It doesn't prevent more buyers than sellers over time. People take advantage of arbitrage opportunities every second of every day.

You don't need an entire market cap in liquidity. I think this is what you are saying this? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

If HEX hits a major Cex, wouldn't that be an extremely bullish event making Hex undervalued in its current state?

Looks like I didn't get the promise I was asking for to start the Pulse thread.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Perhaps I misunderstand what you are saying but are you trying to suggest that the liquidity pool (if that is the only place available for swap) needs to be the size of the marketcap?


No. I understand that in a liquidity pool is only a snapshot of current TVL.

My point is that the fact that HEX being able to only be purchased via a DEX liquidity pool is a hindrance to its growth and that claims of it surpassing ETH via this mechanism is a high high bar.

A massive amount of money would have to flow into ETH/Uni-swap for this to happen.

I hope that is more clear.
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
2408 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:54 pm to
The high high bar is less than one 2x rip away there killer.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:56 pm to
I mostly agree with that, but there's no shorting on dexes. It has it's benefits. Also dexes only is previral. Even with a $200B market cap.
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
3043 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:59 pm to
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I mostly agree with that, but there's no shorting on dexes. It has it's benefits. Also dexes only is previral.
And with Hex, imo it's way better off of cex's for price at this point. You'd have a lot more trading a lot less staking.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9956 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

I mostly agree with that, but there's no shorting on dexes. It has it's benefits. Also dexes only is previral. Even with a $200B market cap.


Where do you see $200B? Coin marketcap has HEX at $84?

But yea, I think being listed on CEX with access to the liquidity of everyone is a big deal.

I'll have to look back into it, but I remember reading that only a small percentage of crypto users even use DEX's. I was also reading HEX has a relatively small holder count in comparison to marketcap.

I also view this is a negative for growth moving forward.

But I wasn't trying to stir your guys shite up.

Slacker asked a pretty clear question that I think cleared a lot of it up and I probably wasn't being as clear as I needed to be.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 4:04 pm
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
2408 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 4:02 pm to
Then a 5x. It'll happen much sooner than you think.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11554 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 5:00 pm to
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Where do you see $200B? Coin marketcap has HEX at $84?


nomics.com

Commie market cap gatekeeps coins that refuse to pay them to list on their exchange.
Posted by SuddenJerk
Member since Oct 2017
760 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Commie market cap gatekeeps coins that refuse to pay them to list on their exchange.

And they are being sued because of it.

It’s good to see this thread has become more civil.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 7:12 pm
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14895 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:10 pm to
Etherscan has it at the 80 billiom market cap. I think that is the most trustworthy
Posted by slacker00
Member since Mar 2011
593 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Etherscan has it at the 80 billiom market cap.

What? Where do you see 80?
LINK
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14895 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by slacker00
Member since Mar 2011
593 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:12 pm to
Thanks. Now, look at the very bottom of this page.

LINK

ETA: page says "Market Data Source: Coinmarketcap"
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 10:18 pm
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11554 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 11:54 pm to
The Pulse chain wallet has $50 billion in it.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 11:59 pm
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
2408 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:36 am to
50 billion as sacrificed?
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14895 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:43 am to
Oh ok, so it's just nomics uses total supply x price which is I guess what's estimated on the current staked to make the gains while everyone one else uses circulating supply x price.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11554 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:12 am to
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50 billion as sacrificed?


That's the current balance of the sacrifice address. HEX has 4x'd since the sacrifice phase.
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