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re: HEX (Blockchain Certificate of Deposit)
Posted on 9/18/21 at 8:05 pm to JayDeerTay84
Posted on 9/18/21 at 8:05 pm to JayDeerTay84
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UniSwap TVL isn’t a “gotta”
HEX/USDC has the 7th most volume on Uniswap. What more do you expect and why?
Posted on 9/18/21 at 8:09 pm to tenderfoot tigah
Take your time Googling your answer. I don't want to have to go over this a 4th time.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 8:14 pm to tenderfoot tigah
Next time you quote, be sure to include my follow up responses. Because I already answered all of that.
Again, you make the comparisons about TVL and it is all UNRELATED to the points I brought up.
You said the the TVL makes it safe. That false. How it’s built makes it safe and as I pointed out, it’s built so that Richard is your daddy.
There are sooo many examples of liquidity pools much larger than the one you reference being evaporated in minutes. They get evaporated because of a whale or whales and frankly its a fact Richard is the whale.
You guys call this a feature. Its actually pretty dangerous.
Again, you make the comparisons about TVL and it is all UNRELATED to the points I brought up.
You said the the TVL makes it safe. That false. How it’s built makes it safe and as I pointed out, it’s built so that Richard is your daddy.
There are sooo many examples of liquidity pools much larger than the one you reference being evaporated in minutes. They get evaporated because of a whale or whales and frankly its a fact Richard is the whale.
You guys call this a feature. Its actually pretty dangerous.
This post was edited on 9/18/21 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 9/18/21 at 8:18 pm to JayDeerTay84
Anyway, I am out for the night. I'll check back later.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 8:20 pm to JayDeerTay84
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There are sooo many examples of liquidity pools much larger than the one you reference being evaporated in minutes.
With average stake lengths of 6 years and massive early end stake penalties?
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Again, you make the comparisons about TVL and it is all UNRELATED to the points I brought up.
Your point is if RH sells, HEX goes to 0, right? That's not a concern for HEX investors. It's the equivalent of Bezos dumping. We have mentioned this multiple times.
Using your logic, you should never, ever invest in a smart contract token. Using your logic dexes would be eliminated.
Posted on 9/18/21 at 8:22 pm to tenderfoot tigah
You need to defer to tigers, you make investing in hex worse 
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:12 am to tenderfoot tigah
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Your point is if RH sells, HEX goes to 0, right?
No my point is that HEX is built so that option is there. Basically, the option is there so that Richard can wake up and decide to wreck everyone.
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That's not a concern for HEX investors
Yea, I think we have established that you guys are ok with your money dependent on how Richard wakes up each day.
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It's the equivalent of Bezos dumping. We have mentioned this multiple times.
Yes, you have mentioned this multiple times. However, the more you mention it, doesnt make it even remotely right.
1st, HEX is not a stock. Stocks are regulated.
2nd, none of the companies you listed have over 50% of the shares tied up in 1 person.
3rd, because these are registered securities, your scenarios could never take place. It would take weeks if not months for Bezos to liquidate his 11% of shares. Also, the SEC would likely also spend a visit to see what is going on. (Remember, SEC had words with Elon over tweeting)
4th, HEX is not a company.
5th, HEX is not a CD.
6th, HEX is not a Bond.
All these examples are not any good because HEX is simply, a smart contract on Ethereum.
HEX is more comparable to a DEFI token than anything you have mentioned.
Ontop of all this, you made it personal. Changing the subject about my personal investment choices. Like mining or other projects I invest in. You look small when you do this and uneducated.
You dont seem to realize things you talk about. For example, Mining is not a short term play. You are correct, buying and holding over a short period is the "better" move if you want short term gains. However, it is proven and that mining is a long term winner when done correctly, as you know, you are constantly building your stack. Though, I participate in all aspects of crypto because I enjoy it and believe in it. I should not be attacked for this.
In any-case, I think I have made it clear what my issues are with HEX and instead of talking about that, you talk about all the other things above; or me personally.
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Using your logic, you should never, ever invest in a smart contract token
My logic is that I think it risky to invest in a token when the owner of the project owns over 50%. I think I have made myself pretty clear. You see Jesus, I see self enrichment....
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Using your logic dexes would be eliminated.
If you think this correct, can you tell me which DEX's have the DEVs controlling over 50% their platforms utility tokens? Also, all the mainstream DEX's have code built in to prevent whales etc from manipulating and fricking people over. They are not all perfect, but they do work to prevent things like you have invested in.
Oh, and good morning!
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 10:33 am
Posted on 9/19/21 at 11:52 am to JayDeerTay84
I'm glad we can finally move on from large institutional, executive, or founder ownership being an issue for investors. We agree to disagree there.
Insiders have 2 days to report their stock or option sales. They can absolutely dump on you.
Yes stocks are regulated, but so is crypto. Try using Binance in Louisiana or the recent Coinbase news are two of many examples.
You don't need 50% ownership in something to zero it. The bids don't total 50% of the shares. Not even close.
Hex is absolutely a smart contract and a CD. Just like Uniswap is a smart contract and a Dex. A smart contract is just a program stored on the blockchain.
Yes HEX is a defi token.
In what way is HEX not a CD? Are you under the impression that CDs can only exist at banks? Do you feel the same way about something like AAVE and defi lending?
Fwiw you made it personal when you derailed Tigers educational post about HEX for page after page. You don't like it when the tide is turned and people point our your terrible rate of return on mining. You might enjoy mining, but it's the worst investment in the entire crypto thread for months.
Insiders have 2 days to report their stock or option sales. They can absolutely dump on you.
Yes stocks are regulated, but so is crypto. Try using Binance in Louisiana or the recent Coinbase news are two of many examples.
You don't need 50% ownership in something to zero it. The bids don't total 50% of the shares. Not even close.
Hex is absolutely a smart contract and a CD. Just like Uniswap is a smart contract and a Dex. A smart contract is just a program stored on the blockchain.
Yes HEX is a defi token.
In what way is HEX not a CD? Are you under the impression that CDs can only exist at banks? Do you feel the same way about something like AAVE and defi lending?
Fwiw you made it personal when you derailed Tigers educational post about HEX for page after page. You don't like it when the tide is turned and people point our your terrible rate of return on mining. You might enjoy mining, but it's the worst investment in the entire crypto thread for months.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 12:10 pm to tenderfoot tigah
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In what way is HEX not a CD? Are you under the impression that CDs can only exist at banks?
When you buy a CD, the bank takes your dollars, invest those dollars and agrees to pay you back X %.
This is not happens when you stake HEX. Feel free to prove me wrong.
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Do you feel the same way about something like AAVE and defi lending?
Defi lending is not remotely close to HEX. Do you want to have a separate discussion on that?
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Fwiw you made it personal when you derailed Tigers educational post about HEX for page after page.
I did not derail it. You guys just cant defend it without making up strawmen.
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You don't like it when the tide is turned and people point our your terrible rate of return on mining.
You do not know what you are talking about and are cherry picking a date range.
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You might enjoy mining, but it's the worst investment in the entire crypto thread for months.
You have no clue when I started mining, what I mine, and the value of my return.
You listed 5 or so projects that you claimed have a better return than my mining, even though you dont know what I mine, yet I informed you I ALSO invest in those projects.
Not once did I ever try to downplay the return any of you made on HEX. That is not my point......
You are trying to be a douche about "whos made more money".
This is a strawman and silly. You dont know anything about the money I have made and its absolutely tacky to use this as a tactic.
You HEX guys are the ones running around talking about being new "millionaires" with HEX.
You think you guys and HEX are the only ones to do this?
Let me tell you something and this is certain, there are people on the other thread trading digital monkeys and Lamas out performing you as we speak.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 9/19/21 at 12:52 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Let me tell you something and this is certain, there are people on the other thread trading digital monkeys and Lamas out performing you as we speak.
youve had some good replies itt.
these guys would flip out if they knew what my Solana monkey business jpegs were trading for but according to the hexicans everything else is a scam but hex; theyve attacked bitcoin, ethereum, ada, sol, nfts, etc. hex is the only thing people can make money on apparently and any healthy criticism makes you "clueless"
Posted on 9/19/21 at 1:33 pm to rocket31
Rocket, I'm happy you guys took advantage of the NFT craze. I personally don't have the balls to invest in jpegs.
Tigers and I never hated on any of those investments other than ADA for being a 5 year promise coin or NFT investing as being jpeg investing. SOL is my second biggest crypto holding. And everyone using dexes is holding ETH and complains about the gas.
Healthy criticism left pages ago. He is posting retarded stuff like:
"Hex isn't a CD because a bank didn't issue it."
"Hex is only a smart contract." He doesn't understand every single ERC 20 smart contract is a program on the block chain.
"Insiders can't dump." He actually thinks insiders have to advertise before buying and selling.
He doesn't know what a Ponzi scheme is.
He doesn't know what a pyramid scheme is.
He links videos over a year old and tries to act as if it's current data and market conditions.
He calls defining a block chain CD "skummy" marketing.
He doesn't understand the different between bank CD and block chain CD.
He calls one of the most liquid smart contracts on the planet not liquid enough.
He thinks crypto has no regulation.
He mentions crypto is meant for defi, then dogs out HEX for not being on a cex.
He says a smart contract cannot be worth more than the block chain it is written on. He aparently never heard of LINK or maybe he didn't realize link is multi chain and worth more than several of those chains.
He dogged out Pulse for not having an ICO like ETH, when Pulse had an ICO nearly identical to ETH.
He calls Pulse bad because the developers are receiving the ICO money like every other development or start up team in the history of the planet.
He calls Pulse bad because we didn't receive our ICO coins yet. It's like the guy never heard of venture capital before.
I could continue, but the point remains the same. He has derailed the HEX thread for pages with his lack of elementary understanding of investing and crypto.
Tigers and I never hated on any of those investments other than ADA for being a 5 year promise coin or NFT investing as being jpeg investing. SOL is my second biggest crypto holding. And everyone using dexes is holding ETH and complains about the gas.
Healthy criticism left pages ago. He is posting retarded stuff like:
"Hex isn't a CD because a bank didn't issue it."
"Hex is only a smart contract." He doesn't understand every single ERC 20 smart contract is a program on the block chain.
"Insiders can't dump." He actually thinks insiders have to advertise before buying and selling.
He doesn't know what a Ponzi scheme is.
He doesn't know what a pyramid scheme is.
He links videos over a year old and tries to act as if it's current data and market conditions.
He calls defining a block chain CD "skummy" marketing.
He doesn't understand the different between bank CD and block chain CD.
He calls one of the most liquid smart contracts on the planet not liquid enough.
He thinks crypto has no regulation.
He mentions crypto is meant for defi, then dogs out HEX for not being on a cex.
He says a smart contract cannot be worth more than the block chain it is written on. He aparently never heard of LINK or maybe he didn't realize link is multi chain and worth more than several of those chains.
He dogged out Pulse for not having an ICO like ETH, when Pulse had an ICO nearly identical to ETH.
He calls Pulse bad because the developers are receiving the ICO money like every other development or start up team in the history of the planet.
He calls Pulse bad because we didn't receive our ICO coins yet. It's like the guy never heard of venture capital before.
I could continue, but the point remains the same. He has derailed the HEX thread for pages with his lack of elementary understanding of investing and crypto.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 1:56 pm to tenderfoot tigah
JayDeer, I'm sorry for s******* on your mining operation. Even if I believe the ROI is worse than investing in our other plays, it's still a solid investment until 2.0 when ETH miners scramble to find other profitable POW coins and mint the hell out of those.
We should all be working together and not troll each other's investments. Bring contradicting DD is fine, but lets not s*** on others investments.
If everyone agrees to not troll, let's work together and I'll take time out of my day to start a thread on Pulse. Tigers and I will explain why we think it's an amazing opportunity for all of us. I believe it has the POTENTIAL to be a once in a lifetime investment. We can show you why. Constructive criticism is welcome, but not trashing and trolling other's investments.
If you guys are interested, all I'm asking is a promise post in here not to troll it.
We should all be working together and not troll each other's investments. Bring contradicting DD is fine, but lets not s*** on others investments.
If everyone agrees to not troll, let's work together and I'll take time out of my day to start a thread on Pulse. Tigers and I will explain why we think it's an amazing opportunity for all of us. I believe it has the POTENTIAL to be a once in a lifetime investment. We can show you why. Constructive criticism is welcome, but not trashing and trolling other's investments.
If you guys are interested, all I'm asking is a promise post in here not to troll it.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 1:59 pm to tenderfoot tigah
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If everyone agrees to not troll, let's work together
We can be assets to each other if we have good solid discussions. We all win that way.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 2:01 pm to tenderfoot tigah
thanks for information..I'm a pretty risky investor and pulse just doesn't fit my risk profile
I'm curious to see how the sacrifice ends up playing out and if that's a success, I'll change my thesis.
right now I'm skeptical and I think that's a reasonable position
I'm curious to see how the sacrifice ends up playing out and if that's a success, I'll change my thesis.
right now I'm skeptical and I think that's a reasonable position
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 9/19/21 at 2:11 pm to rocket31
This can go in a new thread, but check this out here. I think this shows how the risk is small compared to the potential reward.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 9/19/21 at 2:17 pm to FnTigers
That chart is something that I plan on putting into the OP if I make a Pulse thread. Look at the far right column! We have other info that 99.9% of the world is unaware of.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 9/19/21 at 2:19 pm to tenderfoot tigah
quote:For sure!
That chart is something that I plan on putting into the OP if I make a Pulse thread.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 2:26 pm to tenderfoot tigah
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He is posting retarded stuff like:
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Hex isn't a CD because a bank didn't issue it."
I never made this quote. Please use the quote function if you are going to say something like this.
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"Hex is only a smart contract."
It is.
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He doesn't understand every single ERC 20 smart contract is a program on the block chain.
Uhhh, I do.
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"Insiders can't dump."
I never made this quote. Please top lying.
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He doesn't know what a Ponzi scheme is.
He doesn't know what a pyramid scheme is.
I never called HEX any of these.
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He links videos over a year old and tries to act as if it's current data and market conditions.
Well, the video is of Richard. Is he lying or not? You say the video is wrong then that means Richard is not telling the truth?
You cant tell me to do my own research and then when I do and post my research say its not valid because its old????
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He calls defining a block chain CD "skummy" marketing.
I do think its skummy to piggy back of known investment terms knowing its not comparable.
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He doesn't understand the different between bank CD and block chain CD.
I understand that a bank CD is completely different than what HEX is doing which is why I am not sure why the marketing even mentions it. Frankly, as I have stated, its is nothing more than a defi token.
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He calls one of the most liquid smart contracts on the planet not liquid enough.
I never said this. I specifically said that being ranked high on Uni-swap does not mean its secure. Stop lying.
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He thinks crypto has no regulation.
I never said this.
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He mentions crypto is meant for defi, then dogs out HEX for not being on a cex.
I did not do this.
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He says a smart contract cannot be worth more than the block chain it is written on. He aparently never heard of LINK or maybe he didn't realize link is multi chain and worth more than several of those chains.
I said "the way HEX is currently structured". You really need to stop twisting words.
LINK can be bought and sold on exchanges with US dollars. HEX can ONLY be bought via liquidity pool swaps.
It is a massive difference.
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He dogged out Pulse for not having an ICO like ETH, when Pulse had an ICO nearly identical to ETH.
I dog'd nothing. I corrected you when you said Pulse did what ETH did.
ETH had an ICO. Pulse did not. What pulse did, and as the video I linked of RICHARD saying, was NOT AN ICO....
Even the fricking Pulse disclaimer says its not selling you anything. An ICO is a literal sale.
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He calls Pulse bad because we didn't receive our ICO coins yet. It's like the guy never heard of venture capital before.
I never said this.
Please stop lying.
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I could continue, but the point remains the same. He has derailed the HEX thread for pages with his lack of elementary understanding of investing and crypto.
No, I am defending myself from people making shite up on the fly calling me a liar.
I don't appreciate it.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 9/19/21 at 2:29 pm to tenderfoot tigah
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JayDeer, I'm sorry for s******* on your mining operation. Even if I believe the ROI is worse than investing in our other plays, it's still a solid investment until 2.0 when ETH miners scramble to find other profitable POW coins and mint the hell out of those.
We should all be working together and not troll each other's investments. Bring contradicting DD is fine, but lets not s*** on others investments.
If everyone agrees to not troll, let's work together and I'll take time out of my day to start a thread on Pulse. Tigers and I will explain why we think it's an amazing opportunity for all of us. I believe it has the POTENTIAL to be a once in a lifetime investment. We can show you why. Constructive criticism is welcome, but not trashing and trolling other's investments.
If you guys are interested, all I'm asking is a promise post in here not to troll it.
You know, I think the problem is you guys think I am attacking you or something. I wasn't.
I brought up valid concerns and posted white papers, links, videos of Richard, and every single fricking time you guys twist it and make it personal.
I never ONCE said anything to dismiss your profits, your outlook or anything of the sort.
I 100% talked about the function of HEX and Pulse.
I 100% cant stand when people make shite up, use strawmen and flat out lie about what I said.
Its gross.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 9/19/21 at 3:01 pm to JayDeerTay84
Can we agree to disagree on HEX? Leave the rest of the thread for people interested in the investment?
Are you interested in a separate thread on Pulse with a promise to not derail it? Constructive criticism is welcome, not dumb stuff like it needs to be on a cex for adequate liquidity. I personally look for crypto investments before it's mainstream and easy to buy.
Are you interested in a separate thread on Pulse with a promise to not derail it? Constructive criticism is welcome, not dumb stuff like it needs to be on a cex for adequate liquidity. I personally look for crypto investments before it's mainstream and easy to buy.
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